Reading a scroll while invisible?

[Bonedagger]

The light isn't reflected. If it was reflected, you wouldn't be invisible. It's bent around you and then back to it's original heading, similar to the way water in a stream flows around a rock.

I said real world physics. In the real world you can see because light is reflected from a surface. The wave lenght (Color) of the light depends on this surface. Some surfaces reflect directly (Mirrors). It is the reflecting light that your eyes register (You can see stuff).

If we started to apply real world therms into the game like "bending of light" (In this case from the invisible person) it would be nice to know where this light was bend to.

 

[Ranes]

Wow, dungeons drag on and on... Ok, I concede an error in interpreting the Will save but but the idea that an illusion alters reality is too much for my tiny mind to deal with. Either an illusion is just that and not real or it's an alteration of reality and not an illusion.

I'm ducking out, enlightened as to the use of the Will save and content that, in my games, invisibility will not make the user blind.

Have fun with this.

Ranes

Edit:

PS That's a mean rhythm, BD. Scares the willies out of me, while making me tap my foot at the same time...

 

[Bonedagger]

PS That's a mean rhythm, BD. Scares the willies out of me, while making me tap my foot at the same time...

 

[hong]

The CLINCHER is this: if you were to cast invisibility on a door, would it beable to see itself? I THINK NOT.

QED.

 

[0-hr]

If Invisibilty were purely an illusion, then someone standing far away but in an anti-magic field would be able to see invisible people (because the mind-affecting invisibilty magic could not get to them). If Silence were just an illusion, then you could still cast spells. If you only "think" you are not making noise, the spell would still go off wouldn't it?

Just like shadow "illusions" can create very real objects, so glamors can affect reality at a very low level (the level of photons and compression waves in air).

As for physics, how about if 99.9 percent of the light bends around the subject like water around a rock, but one photon in a thousand gets through to hit the retinas. From the outside, the difference is unoticeable due to the ambient light. But from inside, the world looks dim and ghostly to the invisible person (and it's always real windy for some reason).

But really, you are going to bring physics into it, then Silence should suffocate people too. If the air can't move to convey compresssion waves (sound), then it can't enter your lungs and deliver oxygen to your blood steam either. In fact, everyone in the 15ft radius would be frozen in the solidified air

 

[0-hr]

The CLINCHER is this: if you were to cast invisibility on a door, would it beable to see itself? I THINK NOT.

But if you cast Knock on the door could you make it a jar?

 

[Bonedagger]

If Invisibilty were purely an illusion, then someone standing far away but in an anti-magic field would be able to see invisible people (because the mind-affecting invisibilty magic could not get to them). If Silence were just an illusion, then you could still cast spells. If you only "think" you are not making noise, the spell would still go off wouldn't it?

[IMO]

Then you can also say that Mirror Image doesn't fool anybody who observes it from the inside of an anti-magicfield. But as for Silence I considder the school to be wrong. It should have belonged to Abjuration.

It is only the invisibility (What I call "The aura" around the invisible person) itself that is magical. Not the effect it has on it's surroundings. Like with Silent Image.

[/IMO]

 

[Magic Rub]

I can't understand why invisibilty & how it works is still a question? It's been made clear time & time again, Caliban's & other interp's like his are correct, deal with it people.

 

[Nail]

Y'all need to read some Aristotle an' a bit o' Plato. Modern physics has nothing t' do wit' th' fantasy world and its magic. Get over it.

 

[Bonedagger]

I can't understand why invisibilty & how it works is still a question? It's been made clear time & time again, Caliban's & other interp's like his are correct, deal with it people.

(And start applying real world physics to the game?) Because that would make the invisible person blind.

Originally posted by Nail
Y'all need to read some Aristotle an' a bit o' Plato. Modern physics has nothing t' do wit' th' fantasy world and its magic. Get over it.

Good idea. Why couldn't people just have accepted that magic can't be explained from the beginning instead of starting talking about "bending of light".