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Reading Group--Caesar's Legion

MMadsen, glad you like the website.

Good stuff, Yuan-Ti. Good stuff.

Looking at it again and talking about it here made me want to put up some new reviews, actually.

Get to it then! ;)

Speaking of military history book reviews, can anyone recommend a basic primer on strategy and tactics? I can remember always wanting to learn the basics as a kid, and I could never find anything concrete enough and simple enough for, say, a junior-high kid (or a busy adult).
 

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800 ships!...That also includes perhaps over 2000 cavalry! Damn!

I don't want to be on that ship.

European civilization, glory, and power clearly and decisively declined for 1000 years and more after the fall of the Roman Empire. Interesting, 54 B.C.-1588 A.D. is *FIFTEEN-HUNDRED AND THIRTY-FOUR YEARS* and Europe still couldn't achieve what Caesar had commanded.

Once you understand how Rome compared to the later medieval Europeans, you can understand the difference between Middle Earth's First and Third Ages, between Atlantis and later Hyboria, and between the ancient past and here & now in most any D&D setting.

We live in a peculiar time, one where we expect progress. Of course technology will continue to improve; that's what technology does! Right? Until you have a small civil war in your country...
 
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Greetings!

Hey there Matt!:) Write me!

Now, indeed, I agree with you. The civila wars, the strife, and ultimately the fall of the Roman Empire opened up a doorway of darkness, and a vast regression. In isolated instances, like the stirrup and a few other areas, progress was in fact made. But across so many fronts--literacy, philosophy, engineering, mass-farming, travel, laws, military organization, politics, medicine, and on and on, there was an enormous decline and loss. Most of which wasn't recovered until the 18th and 19th centuries. The sad thing is, with the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria in the early B.C.--where it was said that over 500,000 books, scrolls, papyri, and so on, were stored! Much of which was said to contain knowledge from the earliest memories and history of man. Can you believe that? It was said that there was such vast and ancient knowledge there, from when man first recorded history! Imagine the knowledge! Imagine what was lost! Imagine that there may have been the knowledge of the Pyramids, or Stonehenge, or trans-atlantic travel, or the ancient ways of Egypt, of Babylon, of Troy, and Mycenae! Things that we must now suffice ourselves with bits and pieces. Imagine what we might know--imagine what the Romans might have known, had they captured the Great Library intact?

Oh, the loss. I would give my left arm to travel back in time to spend just a month secluded in the Great Library!:)

The Romans hit Britain with an invasion force that they could not even concieve of. Caesar proved himself again and again the master of warfare, and of politics. It is just incredible that things that medieval Europe thought impossible or fantastic, were *ROUTINE* to Caesar, and to Rome!

In reading all of this, it confirms to me the limitations in playing the game with such "medieval mindsets." I like the Middle Ages, actually, but the knowledge and reality of the Ancients often offering so many brilliant, epic possibilities just makes many of the medieval assumptions weak. I like the epic possibilities--nay, the epic REALITIES of the ancient world! They are so evocative, so powerful, and yet--truth is stranger than fiction!--for much of the ancient ways is TRUTH!:)

Next up--Chapter VI: REVOLT AND REVENGE

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
 

Regarding magical standards: having played Warhammer (Battles but also the RPG) in my increasingly distant teen years, I have always looked for ways to bring magic standards into a D&D game.

I think we can all agree that magical standards rock.

When armies march it makes good sense, but since PCs are only occasionally directly involved in major battles you have to look for other inspiration.

This reminds me of how useful a game like Chainmail could have been. I'd love to see characters involved in major battles on a regular basis.

War is brewing and the invading Tarrathian Minotaurs :D are rumored to have sent a party to search for the ancient Great Bull, a battle standard carried by an ancient emperor and dedicated to the god of the minotaurs. History says that armies carrying this standard have never been defeated. The PCs must find the standard before the minotaur heroes or recover it before they can bring it to their army.

Good standard-as-MacGuffin scenario set-up.

The PCs are sent in to face the power of a local Fire Giant duke. The initial assault goes well and they withdraw to rest and recover. Returning they find the duke, his high priest and bodyguards gathered around a great standard depicting a red dragon. Imagine the PCs surprise when the standard shoots a fireball at them...

Mechanically, I guess a standard can just be a wand/rod/staff.

The powers you can come up with for standards can range from subtle (fear, aid) to in-your-face (fireballs, globe of invulnerability).

I'm a big fan of subtle.

Edit: Plus, the Roman Standard Bearer just SCREAMS for a prestige class...

I'm not quite sure what he'd do though...
 

B&N didn't have the book..they were lost..have they no clue on JC?? FOOLS! I splurged and bought it from amazon..they had it..thank god..
 

B&N didn't have the book..they were lost..have they no clue on JC?? FOOLS! I splurged and bought it from amazon..they had it..thank god..

Welcome, Leopold! Now get reading! Fortunately, Chapter VI is only 50 pages into the book. You can probably catch up in an hour or two.
 

Im a bit busy at the moment but Ill get back to the book somewhere this week.

Tip: dont forget your girlfriends birthday (ooops, stupid me)
 

The sad thing is, with the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria in the early B.C.--where it was said that over 500,000 books, scrolls, papyri, and so on, were stored! Much of which was said to contain knowledge from the earliest memories and history of man. Can you believe that? It was said that there was such vast and ancient knowledge there, from when man first recorded history! Imagine the knowledge! Imagine what was lost!...Oh, the loss. I would give my left arm to travel back in time to spend just a month secluded in the Great Library!:)

You might want to keep your left arm until you've learned enough ancient Greek -- and whatever other languages! -- to actually read some of those scrolls. ;)
 

mmadsen said:


Welcome, Leopold! Now get reading! Fortunately, Chapter VI is only 50 pages into the book. You can probably catch up in an hour or two.

only 50 pages into it? I will tear through it like a hot knife through butter..amazon shipped my order today so i should have it by thursday..i will have to recap a bit on early likes and dislikes of the novel to keep up and rehash the first few chapters with y'all...


HEY SHARK! you going to gencon boyo?
 

Speaking of military history book reviews, can anyone recommend a basic primer on strategy and tactics? I can remember always wanting to learn the basics as a kid, and I could never find anything concrete enough and simple enough for, say, a junior-high kid (or a busy adult).

Can anyone recommend Strategy, by Basil Henry Liddell Hart? It sounds like what I've been looking for.

I definitely felt that Sun Tzu's Art of War and Musashi's Book of Five Rings, while interesting, were far too abstract and metaphorical for down-to-earth strategy books.
 

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