Recalled RPG products?

[Glyfair]

I'm trying to put together a list of recalled RPG products. Does anyone know of any besides the two below? If a new version was released, it must have been significantly different from the original product. "Vaporware" products don't count, something must have been released.

The two I know:

Palace of the Silver Princess (orange cover) - The story should be well known. Recalled before release and significant changes were made to the released green edition.

Wings of the Valkyrie - A Champions adventure that was recalled after it was released. The plot dealt with the heroes going back in time and stopping other time travelers from killing Hitler because of issues with the history changes.

(I actually had a copy of this because my FLGS owner pointed out that it had been recalled and if I wanted a copy I better get it.)

Anyone know of any others?

 

[jdrakeh]

Anyone know of any others?

FFE made a big show of recalling and destroying (by choice) its many D&D 3.0 products in some kind of effort to paint WotC as eeeeeeeeeeeevil. Said effort backfired a bit.

 

[Wik]

THe only one I can think of is that Monte Cook Planescape book, but that's more Vaporware than a recall.

 

[trancejeremy]

I think Fast Forward actually destroyed those books because WOTC told them to. They screwed up royally, using IP stuff from the core books (gods most notably), even though many people had warned them about it.

 

[Glyfair]

FFE made a big show of recalling and destroying (by choice) its many D&D 3.0 products in some kind of effort to paint WotC as eeeeeeeeeeeevil. Said effort backfired a bit.

Given the number of copies of those in the system, I don't think this meets what I intended as the definition. Are any particularly rare? I know you can get most of them for $5 or less on eBay (unfortunately, most sellers try to get their loss back by charging huge S&H fees).

 

[jdrakeh]

I think Fast Forward actually destroyed those books because WOTC told them to.

Well, that's what FFE claimed. Since the event, however, several individuals on both sides of the issue have stated, in various public forums, that there was no order of destruction but, rather, a simple cease and desist order accompanied by instruction to rectify future printings and cover the d20 logo on existing products.

Which side of events cleaves more to the truth is something that, I suppose, you have to judge for yourself. I tend to think that the latter does, given that WotC didn't demand or enforce any kind of a recall (FFE products found in violation of the d20 STL can still be found on the market).

 

[jdrakeh]

Given the number of copies of those in the system, I don't think this meets what I intended as the definition. Are any particularly rare? I know you can get most of them for $5 or less on eBay (unfortunately, most sellers try to get their loss back by charging huge S&H fees).

Oh no, they aren't rare at all. Retailers were not required to return those books despite claims made by certain parties. I know that some retailers were asked to return FFE products (I personally know two store owners who were asked to do so by FFE), though I doubt if many of them did (the two aforementioned store owners did not). That said, a recall was attempted (again by FFE). As I said earlier, it didn't seem to work out too well.

 

[jaerdaph]

Well, that's what FFE claimed. Since the event, however, several individuals on both sides of the issue have stated, in various public forums, that there was no order of destruction but, rather, a simple cease and desist order accompanied by instruction to rectify future printings and cover the d20 logo on existing products.

I'm one of those people who heard the story that FFE was required to destroy their product, but then somehow totally missed all the fallout and followup when the truth came out. I'm hoping it's because I was getting laid at the time and had a life or something.

Yeah, I know. Fat chance.

 

[jdrakeh]

I'm one of those people who heard the story that FFE was required to destroy their product, but then somehow totally missed all the fallout and followup when the truth came out. I'm hoping it's because I was getting laid at the time and had a life or something.

Yeah, I know. Fat chance.

There was a big follow-up discussion at Dragonsfoot at one point in time, though they have several active history revisionists who serve as admins and mods there, so I'm uncertain if the discussion in question still survives to this day. Also, I think that the Dragonsfoot Jim Ward Q&A thread was started after the discussion in question, so I'm almost certain that it (the discussion) has been zapped. I'd spend a few hours Googling and searching email lists for links and quotes but. . . ah. . . I don't want to (and more importantly, I'm not obligated to).

 

[jaerdaph]

There was a big follow-up discussion at Dragonsfoot at one point in time (though they have active histroy revisionists who serve as admins and mods there, so I'm uncertain if the discussion in question still survives to this day). I'd spend a few hours Googling and searching email lists for links and quotes but. . . ah. . . I don't want to (and more importantly, I'm not obligated to).

Yup. We all need to get laid more.

Don't worry about it - your word will always be good enough for me, jdrakeh.