D&D 4E Recreating a Dalek in 4E


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How would you create a dalek, from Doctor Who, using the 4E rules system?

Hmm.

Obviously the Daleks would be very high-level antagonists; I'd make them 30th level, the top-end foes of any campaign. (A regular Dalek soldier would be a 30th-level minion. Dalek leaders and advanced models would be regular 30th-level monsters; the Supreme Dalek, Dalek Sec, and Davros would be elites. The Dalek Emperor might be a solo.)

For the most part, they'd be pretty straightforward; tough monsters that dish out hefty damage, probably artillery since their main attack is ranged. Subtlety is not really the Daleks' strong suit. Just throwing out some ideas for Dalek attacks and traits...

  • Exterminate!: The Dalek's main attack, a ranged attack that deals a ton of lightning and radiant damage.
  • Maximum Extermination: A recharge power that deals lightning and radiant damage in a burst.
  • Extract Brainwaves: A melee attack that grabs the target. If the target is already grabbed, Extract Brainwaves deals massive psychic damage and make an attack vs. Will. On a hit, the Dalek learns everything the victim knows.
  • My Vision Is Impaired: A critical hit against the Dalek causes it to be blind (save ends).
  • Adapt to Weaponry: The Dalek has resist 15 all damage (adjust its hit points dramatically downward to account for this). In addition, it has resist 30 to one of lightning, fire, cold, thunder, psychic, radiant, or necrotic damage. It can change this damage type as a minor action.
 
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My husband is thinking of bringing some into his fantasy game. I pointed out the domesticated rust monsters, which he introduced in an earlier game, would be really handy when dealing with the dalek. You could get right to the goey center.
 

My husband is thinking of bringing some into his fantasy game. I pointed out the domesticated rust monsters, which he introduced in an earlier game, would be really handy when dealing with the dalek. You could get right to the goey center.

You'd have to take down their shields first, though. Also, the Doctor's comment in "Dalek" notwithstanding, I'm not at all sure the metal in Dalek casing (dalekanium, I think it's called?) rusts.
 

You'd have to take down their shields first, though. Also, the Doctor's comment in "Dalek" notwithstanding, I'm not at all sure the metal in Dalek casing (dalekanium, I think it's called?) rusts.

Neither do a lot of other substances that rust monsters can destroy. It's magic rist, not real world oxidation.

Anyway, Daleks seem like straightforward Paragon tier flying artillery enemies. Really powerful or special Daleks (Dalek kings or Davros or the like) might be higher in level.

Daleks have been edging up in level, over the years. When the first appeared they were clearly Heroic tier nuisances. Now they've gotten into high Paragon or so, occasionally threatening all creation (which might mean Epic).
 

Neither do a lot of other substances that rust monsters can destroy. It's magic rist, not real world oxidation.

Anyway, Daleks seem like straightforward Paragon tier flying artillery enemies. Really powerful or special Daleks (Dalek kings or Davros or the like) might be higher in level.

Daleks have been edging up in level, over the years. When the first appeared they were clearly Heroic tier nuisances. Now they've gotten into high Paragon or so, occasionally threatening all creation (which might mean Epic).

Spoilers in counter-argument:
One half-crippled Dalek soldier was able to take out some 200 well-trained human troops without being so much as bloodied. The MM typically stats out human veteran soldiers as high Heroic/low Paragon minions; it's hard to see how the Dalek could be other than high Epic. There's also the fact that they were able to go up against the Time Lords themselves and fight to a draw... indeed, it's implied that the Daleks were close to victory, otherwise the Time Lords wouldn't have been driven to use the Final Sanction.

Of course, it all really depends on how the OP's husband plans to use them. You can always just say "These Daleks are from classic Who, not the new series" if you need lower-tier versions.
 

Since all my experience is with the old series, I was wondering why they were being built as something so formidable. They seemed to be "big hat, no cattle" in the old series - very good at announcing their intentions but poor at carrying them out.

I gather they got a bit better at that "carrying out" thing in the new series.

As for taking out 200 "trained human soldiers", even in the old series humans were rather useless unless they happened to be within the Doctor's aura (i.e. the more attention the Doctor pays them, the more powerful/competent they become).
 

Start with a Warforged and tweak away. They already have the construct rules built into them and certain living creature aspects as well. Change their "Resolve" into a force effect...and include ways to upgrade it.

They'll need a disintegrating at-will attack, and a slow base speed. As for their flying, that should also be a feat-based upgrade, probably at "Paragon level."
 

Since all my experience is with the old series, I was wondering why they were being built as something so formidable. They seemed to be "big hat, no cattle" in the old series - very good at announcing their intentions but poor at carrying them out.

I gather they got a bit better at that "carrying out" thing in the new series.

Well, performance varies highly, as one might expect. But the Doctor generally has to babble extra fast to beat them.
 

Now they've gotten into high Paragon or so, occasionally threatening all creation (which might mean Epic).

Might?

Really DnD is a bad model for Dr. Who, because solutions involve coming up with a clever plan rather than just hitting your foe with a sword.

That being said, if I had to put them into DnD I would probably make them epic.
I might also go with the scale down level / scale up group role. I.E the party first meets one regular Dalek as solo. Sever levels later regular Dalek are standard, several levels after that they become minions (with more powerful Dalek revealed).
 

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