[Recruitment] ECL 9 (Demunched)FR Underdogs Campaign

Sorry but I'm out... it seems.. I got a place in the epic game from creamy and that's gona soak up my time, especially in creation of a 36 level char with demigod possibilities =]
 

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reapersaurus said:


Here I was hoping you'd give me some extra stuff to play with, since it seems we're going to have pretty powerful PC's in this game.


reaper- that is more than a little stuff. This is entirely my opinion and has nothing to do with any rule, but here goes:

The Contender is already very powerful. This new contender has only useful prereqs. Giving this character the option to grapple would make him even stronger. When using your Strength power, finishing manuever has a DC of at least 35. You also have a couple of other grappling abilities that are worth at least another feat combined. Plus, you get to increase your spellcasting level every other level.

The domain gives some of the most powerful spells of any domain and a free ability in combat. Tail of the Beast is definitely far better than Spiritual Weapon- one does 1d8 damage and the other does at least 1d10+6 and has reach and special abilities. Bear's Heart is powerful and normally a level 5 Cleric spell. Barkskin is not normally a Cleric spell. Earthquake is normally a level 8 Cleric Spell. Shapechange isn't normally a Cleric spell. Your stomp spell relies on a balance check, making it much more powerful than it should be against certain enemies.

You have a cool character concept, but adding new abilities increases the power level.
 

More details on the potential Character

Here are some more details of my prospective character:

Name: Darius
Alignment: CG or NG
Race: Human / Half-Celestial
Class: Sorceror 6

Stats:
STR 12 Cost 8 (+4 Template)
DEX 15 Cost 13 (+2 Template)
CON 16 Cost 12 (+4 Template)
INT 16 Cost 14 +1 Tax (+2 Template)
WIS 16 Cost 12 (+4 Template)
CHA 24 Cost 20 + 4 tax (+4 Template)
Total Cost 84

Nature: Darius is a force of personality, which complements his somewhat good looks. Tanned, golden skin, and long copper-brown hair make him look like he spends all of his time outside. Darius is innocent to a fault (but not naive), never taking advantage of those who seem to always go along with his thoughts. He has never questioned his heritage, and those around him tended to stare more than ask questions.

Brief Background:

Darius' beginning memories are of a helpful family of farmers who cared for him as he was raised. The other children of the farmers took joy in telling him that he wasn't one of the family, but instantly regretted it because of the hurt that was shown on Darius' face. He was treated as part of the family thereafter. He assisted in the fields, and helped the neighbors repel goblinoids who were stealing food. He frequently explored some of the talents he had while alone (not wanting others to think him odd). He was discovered by a traveling hedge wizard who noted the potential he possessed and sought to harness it. Darius went along witht he wizard for a while learning wha he could, but soon left, feeling there was something more he should be doing.
 

The Forsaken One said:
Sorry but I'm out... it seems.. I got a place in the epic game from creamy and that's gona soak up my time, especially in creation of a 36 level char with demigod possibilities =]

Maybe there is still room ;)

*hope* *hope*

-Will
 
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Elric said:
This is entirely my opinion and has nothing to do with any rule, but here goes:

The Contender is already very powerful.
It's tough for a player to do anything but take whatever over-powering argument that someone brings up during character creation as gospel without complaint, in fear of looking like a player trying to get too much, or being difficult, so I really can't respond properly to your points, I fear. (this qualifies as my most difficulty-worded sentence I've ever written, but I think it's exactly accurate to what I feel).

I have askd the boards about the Contender before in threads that rated PrCs, and the consensus was that it is an underwhelming class. Definately not worthy of both a wasted-feat requirement AND the giving up of 1/2 spell progression.

I mostly want the fun wrestling moves, not the extra-damage ones.
From memory, I believe that most of the wrestling "maneuvers" I put in the Contender class should be available to anyone that grapples someone. If you want to wrestle, anyone should be able to wrestle - it shouldn't require a feat to trip or throw someone.

Tail of the beast is better than Spiritual Weapon. That's why it's a 3rd level spell, as compared to 2nd.
I could have sworn Bear's Heart was 4th level - scrap that spell if it isn't, I'm not fond of it, I couldn't think of one more appropriate.
Barkskin has to be in the list - Sauropods had thick hide for protection.
Shapechange is obvious - to be like your diety.
Thunderstomp is actually underpowered in playtesting. Compare to Grease.
Stomp feat - have you ever trie to actually Overrun someone? It's once in a blue moon, and you suffer an AoO.
That's playtested, also - talk to Heavy G.
 

Howling Coyote said:
Isn't it bit strange to put a half template to something that’s already half something.:confused:

My mother was a half-orc, and my father a copper dragon. It works.

Now, if you applied both the Half Celestial and Half Dragon templates, then you'd have problems. :eek:
 

Howling Coyote said:
I know, but I can't get out my mind the picture of a half-orc/half-human/half-dragon combination that it could also mean if you went strictly by the book. :)

Don't worry, 1/4 Human, 1/4 Orc, and 1/2 dragon will be odd enough, I assure you.
 

GirlsFinalFantaC said:
Hey Matt, your campaign is intriguing, and im more than willing to sign up. Im considering running a CN Female Ninja, backstory forthcoming. Elric will assist with the char-gen stuff. Tired of playing the 'ol low CHA half-orc that smashes everything, going back to the old-school.

Hey, I LIKE the half-orc that goes smashy smashy!! :D
 

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