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[Scott DeWar]

Its like spanking a child in Wal Mart, I would say.

If you spank a child anywhere else you get arrested for child abuse. I wal Mart you can publicly spank you child for the effect: to shame the child in public into acting civilized, not to harm the child phically.

I have seen conduct that led to the ban hammer that was not much different then a child in the throes of a temper tantrum. That is actually the usual reason.

 

[GandalfMithrandir]

I would just like to pipe in and say that I approve of EN World's moderating, and I haven't seen an instance of a moderator moderating something that didn't deserve to be moderated, and I think that they're some of the best ones out there

GM

 

[Dice4Hire]

I have seen Mod postings on the level of "Some people in this thread are being jerks" but I have never seen a Mod call a specific poster a jerk or the like.

[MENTION=90770]DumbPaladin[/MENTION], can you show some links to what you are talking about?

 

[Rel]

I have seen Mod postings on the level of "Some people in this thread are being jerks" but I have never seen a Mod call a specific poster a jerk or the like.

[MENTION=90770]DumbPaladin[/MENTION], can you show some links to what you are talking about?

You should follow me around more. I am not averse to doing stuff like that.

I'm not here in order to insult people. If I want to insult people on the internet I have a very productive venue for doing so already. However I'm perfectly willing to point out unacceptable behavior by using strong terms that may serve to get people's attention (and not only the person that I'm calling down in the thread). When doing so I try and make it a point to target the behavior, not the poster.

Thus I'll say, "This post is exactly the sort of dickish thing this board needs less of. Knock it off." I'm well aware that Dice4Hire and DumbPaladin are not allowed to say such a thing to the same poster without reprisals. And I'm well aware that the poster to whom I said that cannot respond in kind without reprisals. If they don't like it then they are completely in possession of a remedy, which is to simply not post dickish things in the first place.

 

[Scott DeWar]

If someone wants to post ish things, they can get an account over at Circvs Maximvs and get it out of thier system there.

 

[Umbran]

And IMO closing a thread with some pointless generic comment is far more galling than calling out the reasons for doing so.

I used to moderate rather like DumbPaladin requests - very formal, proper, empty of emotional content, and all.

And I got lots of complaints on it: I was told I came across as cold, haughty, elitist, and a number of other things folks apparently didn't want to see in a moderator. I specifically worked on changing the voice I used, and those complaints ceased.

Now, DumbPaladin complains the other way.

I think we may be in the realm of, "You can't please everyone all the time."

 

[Raven Crowking]

Umbran, for what little it is worth, I think your moderation has improved quite a bit over the last couple of years.

 

[billd91]

You should follow me around more. I am not averse to doing stuff like that.

I'm not here in order to insult people. If I want to insult people on the internet I have a very productive venue for doing so already. However I'm perfectly willing to point out unacceptable behavior by using strong terms that may serve to get people's attention (and not only the person that I'm calling down in the thread). When doing so I try and make it a point to target the behavior, not the poster.

I'm in favor of calling out the specific behavior, tacking it right in the offending post and in a new post so that those of us following the thread from our last timestamp can see when it happened and the consequences (like "So and so will enjoying a 3 day vacation from ENWorld as a result"). I think the public shaming affords more impact on posting behavior than someone quietly disappearing. If someone is quietly banned from the thread/site, we can't tell if they were moderated or simply ended up too busy with regular life to participate for a while. Calling out the precipitating behavior removes the benefit of the doubt and lets you know exactly where that behavior leads.

 

[Rel]

I'm in favor of calling out the specific behavior, tacking it right in the offending post and in a new post so that those of us following the thread from our last timestamp can see when it happened and the consequences (like "So and so will enjoying a 3 day vacation from ENWorld as a result"). I think the public shaming affords more impact on posting behavior than someone quietly disappearing. If someone is quietly banned from the thread/site, we can't tell if they were moderated or simply ended up too busy with regular life to participate for a while. Calling out the precipitating behavior removes the benefit of the doubt and lets you know exactly where that behavior leads.

I'm right there with ya.

 

[Scott DeWar]

But of course, keep with the 'do not respond to this banning via rep point or posting. That is a good policy, IMHO.