Xyrlove Woodsoul
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If a Reliable power hits, but is negated, due to an Imeediate Interrupt. Is the power expended?
Reliable An Immediate Interrupts
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weem
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I'm definitely not a rules guy, but here is my take...
...no, it is not expended.
Looking at it in order of events...
- Reliable power hits it's target
- Immediate Interrupt occurs (which happens BEFORE the power was really used) that adds 4 AC (for example)
- Power only NOW 'actually' goes off, missing the target.
In other words, watching it unfold would look like the power simply missed, as it did just that.
...no, it is not expended.
Looking at it in order of events...
- Reliable power hits it's target
- Immediate Interrupt occurs (which happens BEFORE the power was really used) that adds 4 AC (for example)
- Power only NOW 'actually' goes off, missing the target.
In other words, watching it unfold would look like the power simply missed, as it did just that.
TheEvil
Explorer
Ditto
Xyrlove Woodsoul
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Yeah. That's good. To lose a Reliable Daily because of an Immediate Interrupt, would be tough-going.
DracoSuave
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Reliable keyword:
If you miss every target when using a reliable power, you don’t expend the use of that power.
In order to miss a target, the target actually has to be legal. If a power is invalidated by an interrupt, usually this is because the target became illegal. As an example, if you have an immediate interrupt invalidate a daily power with Miss: Half damage, you don't take any damage because the power does not miss, it just doesn't occur at all.
If a power is invalidated as well:
If an interrupt invalidates a triggering action, that action is lost.
That pretty much says it right there.
ValhallaGH
Explorer
So, you've got two answers and both are correct.
If the power misses because of something like Shield, which increases the AC so that the total now misses, then the power simply missed and reliable keeps it around.
If the power is negated because an immediate interrupt made the attempt invalid (probably due to instantaneous movement outside of the attack range) then the power is expended by the immediate interrupt rules DracoSuave cited.
Good luck.
blargney the second
blargney the minute's son
The action is lost, not the power.
In the case of a reliable power, you used the power and didn't hit anyone, so it's not expended.
DracoSuave
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The rule is not 'did not hit anyone.'
The rule is 'missed all your targets.'
No targets = no misses.
blargney the second
blargney the minute's son
I can see how you'd interpret it that way.
However, I'd go with the interpretation that was both more linguistically accurate and more fun for everyone at the table:
"did not hit anyone" == "missed all targets"
However, I'd go with the interpretation that was both more linguistically accurate and more fun for everyone at the table:
"did not hit anyone" == "missed all targets"
Squire James
Explorer
That brings up another question:
I know that if an interrupt invalidates an action, the action is lost. However, is the power activated by that lost action (reliable or otherwise) expended? It can be argued that the power itself could not be used at all, and was therefore not expended!
I know that if an interrupt invalidates an action, the action is lost. However, is the power activated by that lost action (reliable or otherwise) expended? It can be argued that the power itself could not be used at all, and was therefore not expended!
