Remnants of the Horde:Back to Myrach...

[doghead]

Velenne, thanks. I thought because he has a low strength, Power attack was good. He can shift some of his BAB to damage (+10/11 with Haste seems like oodles of spare bonuses after playing only 1st -3rd level characters). As Tsu'koka would have often been mixing it with unit soldiers, it seemed to make sence at the time. If he ever gets to go infantry bashing again .... *sigh*

I will have to keep the weilded in two hands thing in mind.

Uriel, got it. Thanks. I just noticed that Inspire Greatness gives "competency" rather than "moral" (Inspire courage) bonuses, so would these stack?

 

[Uriel]

Regarding Invisibility and Attacks of Opportunity

The Invisibiity spell says that it is ended when you attack. However, there seems to be a grey area regarding when it ends, which affects whether you provoke the AofOp. I am willing to rescind the AofOp, I'm not a Killer/maniac DM at all, and my goal isn't to kill characters. What I did was to roll the Giant's AofOp vs. an Invisible foe, and he missed, so this particular case becomes moot ianyways n Durgo's favor. I am goingto head over to the rules lawyer section and see what folks think, as this will come up again (with Forlash flitting around invisibly). velenne, thanks for pointing that out, as I strive to be as fair as possible.

 

[Velenne]

Thanks for hearing me out. I'm a bit of a lawyer myself (have to be in my P&P group; and in the online arena) so it struck me as odd. Now let's hope he doesn't have combat reflexes....

 

[Uriel]

Thanks for hearing me out. I'm a bit of a lawyer myself (have to be in my P&P group; and in the online arena) so it struck me as odd. Now let's hope he doesn't have combat reflexes....

Gosh, don't you read the MM?
Storm Giants? Naw...that's not Combat Reflexes in the entry, it's um...um...

 

[Velenne]

Ugh...so it goes. 14 dex gives him 2 AofO's a round, out of the book that is. HIT MY PUNY AC 28! Thank the Song Speaker for Haste, that's all I have to say.

 

[Jeremy]

Bargo feels Christmas'y. Gonna draw BIG red lines in the jolly green giant until he's in the spirit too.

 

[Velenne]

Erm...guess I wrote it wrong. This what what I had intended for Durgo to do on his turn:

Round 1:
Ready action goes off. Durgo's trip attempt fails and the giant swings with an AofO but misses due to invisibility. Durgo is now at the top of the init scale, having now gone just before the giant.

Giant finishes his action, smashing Bargo. The round goes by...

Round 2
Durgo's turn comes around again. He gets 3 attacks because he's hasted. Attack 1 was to disarm for which he drew an AofO and got smashed. Attack 2 was to damage (which was why I listed the damage on that one), and the 3rd attack (from haste) was to disarm if necessary. Turns out it was necessary, and Durgo managed to succeed but only after sustaining serious damage.

Giant's turn (used up all his AofO's for the round now): he smashes Durgo in the face twice (I assume he has improved unarmed strike and thus is why he didn't draw AofO's from both Durgo and Bargo).

Durgo has now taken 37 + 41 + 19 + 17 = 114 damage out of 136 HP's and is prone 10' away. Unfortunately, that means that when his turn comes up again, the giant's AofO's will have refreshed for the new round and he'll take another punch (again, assuming the giant is considered armed) when tries to stand up. Oy!

 

[Uriel]

Erm...guess I wrote it wrong. This what what I had intended for Durgo to do on his turn:

Round 1:
Ready action goes off. Durgo's trip attempt fails and the giant swings with an AofO but misses due to invisibility. Durgo is now at the top of the init scale, having now gone just before the giant.

Giant finishes his action, smashing Bargo. The round goes by...

Round 2
Durgo's turn comes around again. He gets 3 attacks because he's hasted. Attack 1 was to disarm for which he drew an AofO and got smashed. Attack 2 was to damage (which was why I listed the damage on that one), and the 3rd attack (from haste) was to disarm if necessary. Turns out it was necessary, and Durgo managed to succeed but only after sustaining serious damage.

Giant's turn (used up all his AofO's for the round now): he smashes Durgo in the face twice (I assume he has improved unarmed strike and thus is why he didn't draw AofO's from both Durgo and Bargo).

Durgo has now taken 37 + 41 + 19 + 17 = 114 damage out of 136 HP's and is prone 10' away. Unfortunately, that means that when his turn comes up again, the giant's AofO's will have refreshed for the new round and he'll take another punch (again, assuming the giant is considered armed) when tries to stand up. Oy!

Man, you guys are getting all book-readin' on me. I had better take out my Rules-Lawyer-Hat for this fight.


No, he doesn't have Improved UA.

I just read Unarmed Attack, which clearly states that Durgo will get an AofOp, but Bargo will not. pg 139,left hand column,'Attacks of Opportunity',3rd sentence An unarmed attack does not provoke an attack of opportunity from other foes...

Durgo smashes him a good one for 27 HP. Editing now...

 

[ferretguy]

I am goingto head over to the rules lawyer section and see what folks think, as this will come up again (with Forlash flitting around invisibly). velenne, thanks for pointing that out, as I strive to be as fair as possible.

Ron....The spell Forlash has up is Improved Invisibility...(have 1 left too....)
Oh and I am a little bit in a quandry...If I cast lightning bolt off my scroll can Forlash channel the energy of the scroll through his arcane nexus changing the type to Sonic?

 

[Uriel]

Firstly, to deadasdai, it is clear that you are not going to win against these enemies. There are still far too many of them and they have at least one Mage, as witnessed by the Fireballs etcc...with which they silenced the Behir.
You can hold, however,if you like and fight it out, or you can retreat and hope to make it back to the Keep (where you have more troops and some siege weapons, a few catapults and several ballistae).

ferretguy: I know that you have Improved Invis, never fear, but the question was Attacks of Op vs.Invis in general and hw is it handled.

I would say No to the Lightning Bolt issue.The Nexus is about you channeling your energies and re-routing/whatever them. The Nexus has no connection to the item(scroll in this case) from which you are casting the LB, sorry.

Off-topic to ferretguy: BTW,Grimace is on the Boards now. He's going to join my Sceptre of Kings game, though he picked the recently freed from slavery mute Rogue/Ranger over the cool Dwarf Cleric/Hospitilar. Vegans are a wierd lot...