D&D 5E restart or rewrite or new?

Would you rather they restart old settings recreate them or just make new ones?


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delericho

Legend
It depends very much on the setting:

Obviously, the boat has sailed on Ravenloft. I'm not a fan of what they did, but do acknowledge that changes needed to be made. Conversely, I think they did the right thing with Eberron, in leaving it as it was.

For Spelljammer, I would basically have republished as-is. I don't like what I've seen so far, and so won't be buying in. Conversely, they've done the same as I would have done with Dragonlance, by taking it back to the War of the Lance but de-emphasising the Heroes of the Lance. (But I won't be buying that, either - my interest in Dragonlance ended quite some time ago.)

Forgotten Realms I'd continue from the last published position.

Dark Sun I'd basically repeat the 4e books, though they'd probably need a bit of a clean up of some lingering problematic material.

Planescape I'd take back to before the Faction War, but otherwise publish as-is.

Greyhawk is an odd one. For that, I'd reset to the last published position while Gygax was still with TSR (so before things like Greyhawk Wars). I'd also be tempted to really lean in to the Appendix N origins of the setting, including any problematic material that is in print - make it clear up-front what is being done and why, but go with it. (Or, since WotC simply won't do such a thing, I'd probably leave the setting in the past.)

Birthright I'd go for a full-on reimagining, in the mould of "Game of Thrones".

Mystara I'd pillage for ideas, but otherwise leave out of print - the real-world analogues just mean the setting has too many problematic areas. Likewise things like Maztica, the Horde, and so on.

Oh, and I'll be happy to see whole new worlds to - it will be interesting to see what they come up with.
 


DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
Concurring with the others who have said this... there is absolutely no point in reprinting the old settings the exact same way as they were. It is a waste of time, money, and energy. If you want the old settings exactly as they are... just buy the old stuff-- if you don't already own the material which you probably already do. Just use it. Having WotC just rewrite the books exactly as they were with only mechanical changes to follow 5E guidelines is completely pointless.
 

Birthright I'd go for a full-on reimagining, in the mould of "Game of Thrones".
I might later start a whole thread but yeah I want a Birthright like setting but it doesn't need to be Cerilia exactly... and yes modern game of thrones type story telling would be great. However I DON'T want it to be human centric
 

Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
not to be too much a rules lawyer, but isn't that what they did with Ed and FR?
I didn't like it then either.

It messed up things as FR novel characters didn't end up matching up to their classes and races exactly.

If you design an edition with 9 races and 12 classes in a race/class based game, you should have a setting where each of the races and classes are fully entwined mechanically and lorewise in it.

Make dragonborn empires, ranger conclaves, paladin orders, gnomish cities, and name the old gods for the GOO warlock.
 

I didn't like it then either.
It messed up things as FR novel characters didn't end up matching up to their classes and races exactly.

If you design an edition with 9 races and 12 classes in a race/class based game, you should have a setting where each of the races and classes are fully entwined mechanically and lorewise in it.
I can see that. Part of why I would want FR restarted is to rebuild it with modern thoughts classes and races. (Artificers, Warlords and Sorcerers from ground up)
 



Personally, I would rather that old settings be re-released with updates, if that's what it takes for that setting to be enjoyed by new generations of gamers.

Plus, if you like the old settings with their original "coat of paint and engine under the hood", so to speak, it wouldn't surprise me if the buzz about a re-release drives up interest in the setting as it existed historically - and, conveniently, PDFs are often available for sale for those who want to experience the settings as they once were.

Edit to add: I would also like to see new settings. So I do rather wish that the poll allowed you to pick multiple options.
 
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Lanefan

Victoria Rules
I might later start a whole thread but yeah I want a Birthright like setting but it doesn't need to be Cerilia exactly... and yes modern game of thrones type story telling would be great. However I DON'T want it to be human centric
Good - you take the non-human version and I'll take the human-centric version; as otherwise Birthright with a GoT attitude/flavour sounds like a great setting idea!
 

Ath-kethin

Elder Thing
I voted "make new" but I'm both lying and a hypocrite; lying because I don't really care since I don't need a new setting and a hypocrite because I wrote the 5th Edition Zakhara Campaign Guide, updating Al-Qadim, and I would love for everyone to buy it.

I'm most interested in pulpy, weird fantasy settings, so I am a huge Spelljammer fan and have been for over 25 years but have no real use for any of the other legacy TSR settings. I love Eberron because it plays right into my interests, but they've done that one for 5e. I'd be down with a Mystara book, but honestly there isn't much that book could do that I haven't done myself already, and frankly I'm coming to like my approach to these updates more than I like WotC's. I'd buy it, but I don't need it and likely wouldn't get much actual use out of it.
 

Hussar

Legend
All of the above.
That was my take too. Maybe a bit fence sitting, but, yeah, I want it all.

If I had to choose in order, I guess it would be reworking existing settings first because it makes the most sense. You have a built in audience and pre-existing value. Makes it a lot easier to get it off the ground. A new setting is a huge investment, and it's very easy for settings to not make a splash and be largely forgotten. But, yeah, I'm a greedy bastard and I want it all.
 

I personally would prefer something that is mostly a nice and compact synthesis of existing material for the setting, maybe with a bit of continuation. It seems rather unlikely that this would happen, though.
 

If you had the power to make WotC choices on there next few slipcase adventure/campaign settings would you rather they make whole new settings or recreate/continue old ones?

I am in the middle, I want both, but I would LOVE to have FR reset to grey box set, reset Darksun (like they did with 4e), but I think the concepts of Birthright could have an entire rebuild to be almost a new setting (but still concept).
If we can only choose one, I have to choose entirely new. That was we're both removing the risk of totally screwing up an old setting (which I feel is considerably likely to happen with DS or PS), and we're rolling the dice on getting something genuinely exciting/original.

Now my one caveat is, hate to say it but, I think conceptually/creatively, WotC are total cowards when it comes to D&D. Even Eberron, a pretty safe kitchen-sink setting I felt was pushing their daring to the limit, and they've never otherwise come up with a new D&D setting. It's weird because WotC also pop out bizarre new MtG settings with some regularity (none of which have yet made it to being full-on D&D settings), but D&D? Nuh-uh.

So I'd have to hope somehow that cowardice was overcome, and they actually created worlds at least as interesting as Eberron, not "even safer than Eberron". It could happen. Winninger is one of the guys who came up with Underground, one of the edgiest RPGs of the '90s (I mean, it's not HOL, but it's edgier than some World of Darkness stuff, and is still broadly in the "edgy" category today), so I could see him being okay with that. And we don't need Underground, we just need a bit more daring.
 

Faolyn

(she/her)
All of the above.

It depends on the setting as well. Like, Planescape. I'd rather they restart it (ignoring Faction War stuff), and reinvent the factions so they're all equally useful for adventurers. And I wouldn't mind the setting as a whole reinvented, perhaps showing how it would work with both World Axis and Great Wheel, as well as players' homebrew cosmoses.

And, of course, I want new settings.
 

Faolyn

(she/her)
I might later start a whole thread but yeah I want a Birthright like setting but it doesn't need to be Cerilia exactly... and yes modern game of thrones type story telling would be great. However I DON'T want it to be human centric
I would like to see an official setting where humans are actually the minority. They can have grand cities, but there should be equally powerful kingdoms for the other races.
 

Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
If you had the power to make WotC choices on there next few slipcase adventure/campaign settings would you rather they make whole new settings or recreate/continue old ones?

I am in the middle, I want both, but I would LOVE to have FR reset to grey box set, reset Darksun (like they did with 4e), but I think the concepts of Birthright could have an entire rebuild to be almost a new setting (but still concept).

I'm with you on the more nuanced "It depends." Dark Sun needs a bit of rework, Planescape is mostly ok how it is, everything else probably somewhere in between. Except Mystara, don't go near Mystara.
 

Jer

Legend
Supporter
Except Mystara, don't go near Mystara.
I love Mystara, but it's definitely one that I'd rather see a complete reimagining of rather than trying to tweak it. My own version when I use it leans heavily on certain elements (Thyatis, Alphatia, Glantri, etc.) and ignores or reworks others (Atruaghin for starters, among others). Call it a parallel universe version of the original setting or a new setting inspired by it rather than a continuation of it. But the amount of effort to do it means its doubtful that would happen.

When I feel like I care about such things that's how I treat all of the various setting iterations - parallel universe versions of the same setting. The version I play at my table is already different from everyone else's - what's one more parallel universe in that sense?
 

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