Review: Advanced Players Manual (Long)

[Crothian]

it is actually 0-7 8-13 and then 14-21

 

[DMH]

I wonder why it totals to 42 instead of 44. With 42 there can be not be a true TN.

 

[Crothian]

Actually, it works by having the chaos/law and evil/good scores add to 21. So, if you have a 13 chaos score you also have an eight law score.

 

[Li Shenron]

it is actually 0-7 8-13 and then 14-21

Aha! So with "0" it's then symmetric again. Only slightly less probable to be neutral than each of the two extremes.

They can't do it because it's not OGL, but it would have been nice if they also had included an option for Exalted and Vile characters, perhaps Good/Evil 21/0 and 0/21 respectively?

I wonder why it totals to 42 instead of 44.

I really don't get this... why summing them up?

 

[DMH]

Actually, it works by having the chaos/law and evil/good scores add to 21. So, if you have a 13 chaos score you also have an eight law score.

Yes, but the total needed for a true neutral being is 44 (11 in each) and that is not possible if the grand total is 42. TN outsiders and animals suddenly have a leaning towards something not neutral with this system.

 

[DMH]

As much as I love the weaver, I do think the thread selection is a tad poor. 2 relating to darkness (benighting and shadows), 3 relating to hiding the truth (chicanery, deception and veils) and a couple strange ones like mendicant and gemini, and then the limit of 3 spells per level all adds up to a need for tweeking and adding to.

The only suggestions I have are raising the spells/level to 5 and let the player who wants to play a weaver to create his own threads (such as frost or force).

 

[JoeGKushner]

So for those who have it, what have you actually used in your game?

From the Advanced Player's Guide by SSS, about the only thing I've used are some of the Elite PrCs and the Critical Hit System.

From Unearthed Arcana by WoTC, Action Points, Bloodlines, Racial Paragons and a few other bits here and there.

So what has seen game use?

 

[DMH]

From the Advanced Player's Manual by WoTC

Don't you mean the Advanced Player's Guide from S&S?

 

[Crothian]

So for those who have it, what have you actually used in your game?

From the Advanced Player's Manual by WoTC, about the only thing I've used are some of the Elite PrCs and the Critical Hit System.

From Unearthed Arcana, Action Points, Bloodlines, Racial Paragons and a few other bits here and there.

So what has seen game use?

Nothing. and nothing from the advanced Players Manual. And only the Earth Dwarf from UA though I plan to eventually take Dwarf Paragon levels with him.

THe options from the three books are interesting but I'm finding that people are not taking to them to put in game.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Don't you mean the Advanced Player's Guide from S&S?

Yes, you are correct.

So what are you using?