Review of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay

[mhacdebhandia]

I'm curious to know if the Bestiary (or the corebook) uses the "intelligent fungi" origin for Orcs?

 

[Spell]

The new version is still plenty grim. The Empire is reeling after the Storm of Chaos, and is quite weak. Internal corruption is still prevalent. Bretonnia might have shiny knights, but it has starving bitter peasants as well.

And then there's the disease, wilderness, insanity ...

exactly. i think it's more like a change of perspective than a real change of background. if you know how the old Emperor and Bretonnia were portraited, you can say that the "new" version is just the same tale told by a different story.

for example, if you asked the average frenchman what he thought about Louis XVII throughtout the history you would get very different answers.

as i said, the current version is very grim, too. i just liked some of the old assumptions and point of views, but putting them back in the background it's a... uhm... free action!

 

[Graf]

This was not a review. This was an atempt to get WHFRP players to switch over to d20.

I think mr. Dancy has lost his focus. In determinig whether WHFRP is a good game or not, what relevance does it have that Pramas used to work at WotC.

Please, get off the soapbox.

He's said they are similar, but players get to have more choices and control over their characters. (which players love more than just about anything else)

I do not think it is an exaduration to say that there are 100 DnD players for every WFR player.

The man doesn't even work for WotC anymore, but assuming his goal is to get people to switch WFR doesn't have much of a fan base to be raiding.

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Personally I think that a review of a product that compares it with the mainstream product of the same catagory with specific, in-depth rules comparisons is awesome. Mechanical analysis is often lacking in reviews, but its far more important that someone's personal flavor-related opining.

But I've always liked RD's focus on taking apart rulesystems and discussing their relative merits. Its not something everyone is into though.
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[Numion]

well, monsters tend to be much more "mundane" in the Old World. no flashy dragons, or demi planar half liches, but orcs, chaos cultists, some undead... you have the idea, i'm sure.

Hmm. I don't know where this idea comes from - it doesn't come from WFRP 1E. I only have the 2E main book, so I can't comment on 2E. 1E, however, does have Dragons, really fantastic demons, liches, vampires, Jabberwocky (yeah, that one), etc .. 1E Old World is filled with the usual D&D tripe, sorry. 1E WFRP even had template monsters before 3E D&D --> ZING!!!

WFRP is a world of grim, but heroic adventuring. It's not Call of Cthulhu. It's got fate points for chrissakes! The cover of 1E WFRP is what the world is about - gore filled splatter orgy.

 

[Graf]

kinda off topic but

Wow. You know, I never thought of banning as anything other than a permanent thing.

Wulf

I would expect that permenent bans would be meaningless unless the Mods were really willing to put out a lot of effort. With the ability of people to just get new addresses, cloak their IPs, etc its pretty tough to keep someone out of an open community.

A short ban is much more likely to make the person want to take a break.

 

[MonsterMash]

I do not think it is an exaduration to say that there are 100 DnD players for every WFR player.

Not certain about this, especially in the UK and rest of Europe where WHFRP was very popular at one time.

 

[Olive]

I'm curious to know if the Bestiary (or the corebook) uses the "intelligent fungi" origin for Orcs?

It doesn't say either way...

 

[Akrasia]

...
I do not think it is an exaduration to say that there are 100 DnD players for every WFR player.

The man doesn't even work for WotC anymore, but assuming his goal is to get people to switch WFR doesn't have much of a fan base to be raiding. ...

Some facts:

WFRP 1e was the most successful RPG produced outside of the United States.

WFRP 2e is currently the third best selling RPG around.

 

[Belen]

Some facts:

WFRP 1e was the most successful RPG produced outside of the United States.

WFRP 2e is currently the third best selling RPG around.

Where did you get that information?

I still do not see why so many people are "offended" by the review.

 

[The Shaman]

I still do not see why so many people are "offended" by the review.

But you can accept that people see it differently than you do, right?