Review of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay

RyanD said:
(snip) the division of character abilities into skills & feats (talents) (snip)

IIRC, this was a feature of the first edition of the Warhammer RPG and one that I thought inspired the idea of Feats in D&D3E. Yes/no?
 

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Turjan said:
For the majority of the people in central Europe, the renaissance saw a sharp decline in their standard of living with lots of death and misery. It fits the WFRP world quite well.

I think you may be the first person I've ever seen use "Renaissance" as a synonym for "things got worse".
 

RyanD said:
Originally Posted by Turjan
For the majority of the people in central Europe, the renaissance saw a sharp decline in their standard of living with lots of death and misery. It fits the WFRP world quite well.
I think you may be the first person I've ever seen use "Renaissance" as a synonym for "things got worse".

It's not at all unusual that during a historical period which was noted for achievements in ideas, arts, etc., that the daily life of the comman person was getting worse
 

3.x feats are absolutely identical to SPECIAL system perks. The XP table is also identical. Yet, no one is claiming that 3.x is a derivative of SPECIAL...
 

RyanD said:
I think you may be the first person I've ever seen use "Renaissance" as a synonym for "things got worse".

Maybe not for the artists and proto-scientists, but for the general population it was another matter. Read this for some short notes.
 

Indeed. A rebirth in classical learning (which is truly what the Renaissance was celebrating) does not necessarily result in enough food and shelter for everyone, nor prevent religious hysteria.

Kind of like Dancy's review, now that I think of it.
 

RyanD said:
I think you may be the first person I've ever seen use "Renaissance" as a synonym for "things got worse".
You think that's not true? I think you fell for the Renaissance propaganda of the so-called "Dark Ages". For most people, things got worse in the "Renaissance" and Baroque ages. This is scientifically documented by field investigations of buried people. While most skeletons from people of the early modern ages show signs of severe malnutrition and wearout, skeletons until quite late into the Middle Ages look mostly healthy. A better understanding of economical processes had a large part in this deterioration. In the Middle Ages, dependent people ate what the farms produced. In the early Modern Ages, dependent people only got to eat the cheapest product that a farm produced, and only this. That, in combination with a fast growing population, led to severe malnutrition and famines.

The phenomenon of the witch hunt should make the very common erroneous picture of the renaissance and baroque ages clear. The witch hunts culminated in the 16th and 17th centuries, well into renaissance and baroque. These were the heydays of superstition.
 
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