[Review] Races of Faerun

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Ok, I give, what does ret-con mean?

 

[Gez]

Ok, I give, what does ret-con mean?

RETro-CONverted. Changing something and then pretending it has always been there (i.e., not providing a rational for the change, thus denying the fact there is a change).

3e FR retconned the halflings from stout and tallfellows to strongheart and ghostwise, for example.

The Time of Trouble in 2e was an attempt at avoiding retcon.

 

[Starman]

Prestige Classes: Included here are the Battlerager, Bladesinger, Breachgnome, Elven High Mage (epic class), Great Rift Skyguard, Orc Warlord, Spellsinger (a bardic PrC), the Warrior Skald, and the Warsling Sniper.

Is the bladesinger the same one printed in Tome & Blood or is it the version from the web enhancement?

Starman

 

[Gez]

Is the bladesinger the same one printed in Tome & Blood or is it the version from the web enhancement?

A better question would have been Is the bladesinger the same one from the Tome & Blood web enhancement or is it a new version ?, since they made it clear from day one the one that got printed in T&B was an early draft that slipped in by error.

From what I know, it sure seems to be the one from the T&BWE.

 

[Drakron]

Snow elves ...

Oh?

Were exactly have we seen snow elves in any product with TSR/WotC logo?

They are, if not mistaken, a Dragon creation in one of their articles that never show up in the 2nd MM anuals, with says a lot about how what good idea that was ...

Oh and Derro are human/dwarf crossbreed created by one of the Greyhawk evil organizations so seeing they outside GreyHawk makes as much sense as seeing valley elves in Forgotten Realms (that is, none).

So sould we use all those wonderful (<- sarcasm) ideas that were created, like that Lurien halflings are Kender?

(Not joking, SpellJammer claimed that.)

 

[drnuncheon]

RETro-CONverted. Changing something and then pretending it has always been there (i.e., not providing a rational for the change, thus denying the fact there is a change).

Actually it's for 'RETroactive CONtinuity', and it comes from comic book fandom. The rest of the definition is essentially accurate.

J

 

[Tiberius]

A slight correction. The ECL of a tanarukk is +8, since they have 5d8 monstrous hit dice with a +3 level adjustment. Other than that, I concur with the review. I picked it up and it is wonderful for my homebrew. 4/5. My only real complaint is the need to refer back to the FRCS for some of the subraces.

-Tiberius

 

[Chauzu]

Well... we got Underdark elves, dwarves, orcs, gnomes, AND halflings... now we need underdark humans like on the Time Machine.

 

[NiTessine]

Spriggans will never get any official existence, despite being quickly mentionned in the deity tables of the FRCS and Faiths & Pantheons as followers of Urdlen. You'll see a Savage Species-style monstrous class for flumphs before you see a Spriggan. Gnomes don't sell.

It's in Son of Portable Hole Full of Beer, by Ambient. Thought you might want to know.

 

[Alzrius]

Originally posted by Gez
Spriggans will never get any official existence, despite being quickly mentionned in the deity tables of the FRCS and Faiths & Pantheons as followers of Urdlen. You'll see a Savage Species-style monstrous class for flumphs before you see a Spriggan. Gnomes don't sell.

And glancing over the Table of Contents for the Fiend Folio, we see...the Spriggan!

Speaking about misses, why didn't they include ophidians ? The dang things need to be back in print. Well, here's hoping for the Fiend Folio

Two for two! They are indeed in the Fiend Folio!

Open your Monster Manual, page 117, and look just above the Harpy entry...

Deep...halflings....NOOOOOO!!!

Originally posted by Drakron
Were exactly have we seen snow elves in any product with TSR/WotC logo?

They are, if not mistaken, a Dragon creation in one of their articles that never show up in the 2nd MM anuals, with says a lot about how what good idea that was ...

First of all, just because something in Dragon doesn't get reprinted in a book does not, in any way, shape, or form, mean its a bad idea. It'd be impossible for everything to be reprinted that way, and even if they could, people would be up in arms over the sheer amount of rehashed material. So, saying it wasn't in a book doesn't make the idea any less good.

Secondly, those snow elves were printed in Dragon around late 2E, and back then, Dragon was published in-house, meaning that the entire magazine was a TSR/WotC-logo production. Snow elves were a good idea, hence why they got mentioned a few times afterwards (such as a snow elf deity in an article expanding the Seldarine later).

Oh and Derro are human/dwarf crossbreed created by one of the Greyhawk evil organizations so seeing they outside GreyHawk makes as much sense as seeing valley elves in Forgotten Realms (that is, none).

lol, and in a fit of irony, you're now referencing an article from Dragon, which you just cast aspersions on as not having good ideas. That aside, the article you're talking about was from late 2E, and by then derro had already been around for quite a while, on many worlds, including Toril, so they do indeed make sense in the Forgotten Realms.

So sould we use all those wonderful (<- sarcasm) ideas that were created, like that Lurien halflings are Kender?

(Not joking, SpellJammer claimed that.)

I vaguely recall that, and I thought it was something to contemplate. btw, Spelljammer, iirc, insinuated that, it didn't outrightly say it was true. That was what made the idea so great to contemplate. I think we should use all those wonderful (<- not sarcasm) ideas.