Revised dodge and mobility

[ecliptic]

Dodge [General]
You are adept at dodging blows.
Prerequisites: Dex 13
Beneift: You gain a +1 dodge bonus to your Armor Class against all attacks.
A condition that makes you lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) also makes you lose dodge bouses. Dodge bonuses (such as this one and a dwarf's racial bonus on dodge attempts against giants) stack with each other, unlike most types of bonuses.

Mobility [General]
You are skilled at dodging past opponents and avoiding blows.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Dodge
Beneift: When you use a move action to move, you get a +2 dodge bonus to Armor Class until the beginning of your next turn. This increases to +4 against attacks of opprotunity if you move out or through a threatened area.
A condition that makes you lose your Dexterity bonus to Armor Class (if any) also makes you lose dodge bouses. Dodge bonuses (such as this one and a dwarf's racial bonus on dodge attempts against giants) stack with each other, unlike most types of bonuses.


Opinions?

 

[DanMcS]

Dodge [General]

Tremendously common houserule.

Mobility [General]
You are skilled at dodging past opponents and avoiding blows.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Dodge
Beneift: You get a +2 dodge bonus to Armor Class when you move more than 10 ft. This increases to +4 against attacks of opprotunity caused when you move out or through a threatened area.

You mean the +2 applies any time during and after your move until your next turn (so you can circle and bob and weave around the bad guy for AC bonuses)? I like that.

 

[ecliptic]

There I edited it.

 

[Aaron2]

Mobility [General]
Beneift: When you move 10 ft. or more, you get a +2 dodge bonus to Armor Class until the beginning of your next turn. This increases to +4 against attacks of opprotunity caused when you move out or through a threatened area.

The only problem I can see is that it is possible to get an AoO before you've moved the 10 feet needed for the +2 to kick in. Saying "This increases" implies that it won't work until the +2 kicks in -after- moving 10 ft. Forex, if you leave a threatened area at the beginning of your turn, you would only have moved 5 ft. before the AoO.

I've been pondering how to say it differently. Does the +2 dodge bonus apply immediately after moving 10 ft, like versus AoOs for bull rushing or does it only apply between your turns?

Aaron

 

[ecliptic]

You gain it immediately.

Well if you decided to move only 5' it would be a 5' step, which doesn't provoke an attack of opprotunity. If you decide to move 10', you do provoke an attack of opprotunity. As the bonus happens immediately, you gain the +4 bonus against any AoO against you for moving.

 

[Kemrain]

Couldn't you just explicitly say that you don't gain the dodge bonus when making a 5 ft. step? Or that, you gain it upon spending an action to move? Dictating the distance I need to move isn't the intent, is it?

You can always spend a move action to only move 5 ft.

- Kemrain the Mobile.

Wait a minute... The +2 Dodge monus to AC from moving... Wouldn't that counteract the -2 AC penalty from charging?

- Kemrain the Blessed Credit Card of Charging.

 

[ecliptic]

Edit:Well there I edited it.

I also edited the feat below, which I did not create.
Lunge [General]
Prerequisite: Improved Charge
Benefit: You can make a charge attack by moving only 5 feet. However, as this is a charge attack, the feet move counts as a move action, not as a 5-foot step, and you may still only make one attack with the usual bonuses and penalties associted with a charge attack.
Normal: Charging normally has a minimum movement distance of 10 feet.
[bSpecial:[/b] This feat cannot be used with the Mobility feat.

Wait a minute... The +2 Dodge monus to AC from moving... Wouldn't that counteract the -2 AC penalty from charging?

Yes it would.

 

[Ferret]

I like the idea for them, the new dodge version has been done before, but that doesn't matter.

I agree with Kemrain that the wording seems a little odd, how about "after any movement that isn't a 5 foot adjustment"

But I find it odd that you retain the bonus to movement for a round until after you stop. I supose it makes more sense when you think that all the actions happen in the same 6 second slot....

 

[monboesen]

But I find it odd that you retain the bonus to movement for a round until after you stop. I supose it makes more sense when you think that all the actions happen in the same 6 second slot....

And when you realize that you don't move for 6 seconds then stop for a while and then move again. The game is turn based the actions really are not.

 

[Kemrain]

I agree with Kemrain[..]

I don't care what the context is, that's a good thing.

I like the feats, lots. Consiter them stolen. Thanks for doing my work for me, sucker!

- Kemrain the Appreciative.

...Wait.. Improved Charge?! Huh?

- Kemrain the Confooozed.