Ride-By Attacvk, Your Mount and AoO

[Artoomis]

From the Sage:

Does your mount avoid an AoO when the rider has Ride-By Attack?

Yes.

The feat states "Prerequisites: The character does not provoke an attack of opportunity from the opponent that the character attacks," which refers to the character only, not the mount.

No, it refers to the character and the mount.

Of course, the feat also states: "...the character may move and attack as with a standard charge and then move again (continuing the straight line of the charge). The character's total movement for the round can’t exceed double the character's mounted speed," which also refers to the character's move, but of course it's really the mount that is moving.

See previous answer.

For those who may have wondered.

 

[mikebr99]

I'd just like to point out that if you and your mount are attacking a mounted opponent... His mount still gets an AoO provoked by your movement, which he (the mount) could use on you or your mount. And if the mount has Combat reflexes, and a high DEX, he can attack both of you.

There are really two opponents there, and you have to decide which you're are attacking, and thereby which one will not get an AoO against both of you.

 

[Ravellion]

I can hardly picture that: Two knights charging in on eachother, then suddenly Knight 1's horse trips Knight 2's horse... LOL!

Rav

 

[Tyrrell]

You prefaced your remark with "From the Sage", where can I find this ruling? is it in the FAQ? on the Wizard's site? in a Dragon?

(I'm hopeng to convince a DM to adopt it and this is something that might carry some weight with him. But not if it is just someone else posting my opinion on a message board)

 

[Mordeth]

EMail

It probably was an email that he recieved from the sage. It would be cool if the sage posted all his emails, but would probably be too time consuming.

 

[Jeremy]

You can find that ruling reposted by Skip on the official wizards boards in the sub board on the web-based features in a post questioning the Goblin and his Hellhound Gamestoppers feature.

 

[Storm Raven]

From the Sage:

Does your mount avoid an AoO when the rider has Ride-By Attack?

Yes.

Note that this ruling directly contradicts the example of play given in Sword And Fist (from the fight between the Paladin and the evil Ranger). In addition, this interpretation from the Sage is completely unsupported by the text of the feat. I'll stick with the alternate version that actually uses the text as a basis for decision making.

 

[Jeremy]

No it doesn't. That was the question I made on the original board to test it out and you'll see it's something different.

The mount and rider do not take AofO's at the mount as it passes, they complete their readied actions. Double check.

Jairami
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posted May 21, 2002 06:42 AM
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Not that it matters, but it might be helpful for newer players if the goblin's sneak ability was pointed out as well as Krusk's uncanny dodge ability in the first round.

The goblin's init comes up before Krusk's, meaning that normally, he'd be flat-footed and the goblin would get to do an additional 1d6 of sneak attack damage (that would not multiply with the spirited charge), but Krusk has the uncanny dodge ability and is never considered flat-footed and is able to reposition himself at the last instant to protect his vitals.

Nothing important, just a friendly observation.

And now, a question:

The ride-by attack feat states that you do not provoke an attack of opportunity from the opponent who's threatened area you move through. It does not state that your mount is also protected. Hence why I thought mounted combat was a prerequisite to ride-by so you could protect your mount with a ride check.. In the game stoppers, this doesn't come up and as Krusk cannot be flat-footed, he still threatens an area right? Would Krusk get an attack of opportunity against the hell hound for moving through his threatened area? Or is the hell hound protected by his rider's feat even though the hell hound didn't attack Krusk----(Sword & Fist, pg 66 says ride-by attack only protects against attacks of opportunity from your target)?

Help please?
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Skip Williams
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posted May 22, 2002 05:18 PM
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Your movement during a Ride By Attack does not provoke attacks of opportunity from the foe you attack. This extends to your mount also (after all, it's your mount that is doing the moving).

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[Jeremy]

Basically the distinction is if you ride-by a single opponent, both you and your mount are protected from his AofO by the Ride-By Attack feat.

But if you ride in between two opponents through both of their threatened areas, you and your mount are only protected from AofO's from the target of your attack. The other opponent can AofO you, your mount, or both because you did not attack him.

And both could attack you as you ride by if they had readied actions to do so as the evil ranger and his mount had.

 

[Artoomis]

You prefaced your remark with "From the Sage", where can I find this ruling? is it in the FAQ? on the Wizard's site? in a Dragon?

(I'm hopeng to convince a DM to adopt it and this is something that might carry some weight with him. But not if it is just someone else posting my opinion on a message board)

I posted a question and answer that was in an e-mail exchange between me and the Sage.

It only makes sense, really.