Riding Dog skill points

[Artoomis]

Thanks mate. I wonder why I never noticed that before, maybe because I never really bothered to check the actually skill points of monsters before I guess.

Anyway, take a look at the hobgoblin then and tell me how that adds up then.

Hobgoblin is different - it's classed (warrior).

More of the rules:

... All listed skills are class skills, unless the creature has a character class (noted in the entry)...

The warrior’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Handle Animal (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Jump (Str), Ride (Dex), and Swim (Str).

Hobgoblin:

Skills: Hide +3, Listen +2, Move Silently +3, Spot +2

Skill points = 8 (no int bonus) for 1st level Warrior

Dex = +1 bonus to Hide, Move Silently
Wis = -1 to Listen and Spot.
Studded Leather = -1 to Hide, Move Silently
Alertness = +2 Listen, +2 Spot

Racial = +4 Move Silent - This is not included in the numbers presented beacuse that's the way MM does it "for clarity."

Hmmm......

Skills should be:

Before spending any points, after adjustments:

Hide 0, Listen 1, Move Silently 0, Spot 1

Total points needed to get to the listed skills entry = 8, but they are supposed to be cross-classed since the Hobgoblin is listed as a "warrior," thus it's wrong - he's got twice as many skill points as he should have.

This appears to be an error. Whoops - this should be in errata.

 

[Artoomis]

For comparision, the Orc is done correctly:

Abilities: Str 17, Dex 11, Con 12, Int 8, Wis 7, Cha 6
Skills: Listen +1, Spot +1
Feats: Alertness

-2 to Listen and Spot from Wis
+2 to both from Alertness
Skillpoints = 4 (int penalty)

Net = 0 Listen and 0 Spot, then spending 2 points on each we get:

Listen +1, Spot +1

This seems to confirm that Hobgoblin is in error.

 

[Norfleet]

Nope, it doesn't actually. It only has the bonus from alertness and wisdom.

You're joking. My dog can hear me open a bag of cheetos several hundred feet away through a total of 80 feet of concrete. Even when I try to do so quietly.

 

[AGGEMAM]

This appears to be an error. Whoops - this should be in errata.

I knew