Ring of Invisibility Question

[ArcOfCorinth]

One of my PCs has a ring of invisibility. He likes to sneak up on things such as say a kobold. If he quickly dispatches the kobold, can he pick the corpse up and turn invisible to hide the body from other kobolds that might turn around?

Or would the corpse not turn invisible with him? I'm thinking it would as all other items in his possession do as well.

Also, if he has an activated sunrod when he turns invisible, what happens to the light? I'm sure it turns invisible but can he still see? Or is there light erupting from a humanoid shaped event horizon as I'm sure the light rays could escape the magic of the ring?

 

[AuraSeer]

When you turn invisible, all objects in your possession turn invisible as well. I think I'd extend that to a corpse as well.

Turning a sunrod invisible would hide the rod itself, but not the light it generates. There would be a visible glowing ball apparently hovering around by itself. Anyone seeing that would not need a Spot check to locate the invisible character.

 

[dcollins]

Or would the corpse not turn invisible with him? I'm thinking it would as all other items in his possession do as well.

DM's call, but I'd rule "no".

A whole other creature pretty clearly violates the intent of "possessions" -- it's clearly not a garment or item worn easily or close to the body (as in a pouch, pack, or scabbard). The DMG example of picking something up says it needs to be pocketed or covered by clothes to disappear.

Also, if he has an activated sunrod when he turns invisible, what happens to the light?

I think the end-result would be apparent globe of light from a point in the air (in my campaign, I ruled that it gives away your presence, but you still have full concealment and aren't automatically targetted).

 

[ArcOfCorinth]

Thanks for the quick answers. I'm going to rule that the corpse would turn invisible with him but would clearly hamper moving silently.

 

[bret]

Thanks for the quick answers. I'm going to rule that the corpse would turn invisible with him but would clearly hamper moving silently.

The normal rules would have the check penalty for encumberance be the Move Silently penalty. Assuming the Kobald weighs enough to encumber the character, the rules already give a penalty.

I could definately see giving an additional penalty because of the ackward shape.

 

[ArcOfCorinth]

Plus its going to add roughly 50 pounds of weight to him.

 

[jontherev]

Thanks for the quick answers. I'm going to rule that the corpse would turn invisible with him but would clearly hamper moving silently.

Well, according to the rules, you are incorrect. You'd need the 3rd level spell Invisibility Sphere to pull this off.

From the SRD, the spell Invisibility:"If the recipient is a creature carrying gear, the gear vanishes, too. If the character casts the spell on someone else, neither the character nor the character's allies can see the subject, unless the character can normally see invisible things or employ magic to do so.

Items dropped or put down by an invisible creature become visible; items picked up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature."[/b}

So, unless you place the kobold into your pocket or bag of holding (move-equivalent action I believe), you'd need the Inv. Sphere spell. You don't just turn stuff invisible by touching it.

 

[ArcOfCorinth]

From the SRD, the spell Invisibility:"If the recipient is a creature carrying gear, the gear vanishes, too.

He turned invisible after picking up the kobold. I'm going to rule that the corpse would disappear like anything else in his hands.

 

[Thanee]

Altho, I somewhat agree with dcollins, I think this is a reasonable ruling.

OTOH, Invisilibity has only one creature as a target, and a dead creature is still a creature (i.e. for Raise Dead spell).

Bye
Thanee

 

[Latency]

Wouldn't the blood from the Kobold reappear once it left the dead body? Might look strange blood dripping from mid air.