Rings, duration of effect


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dedicated said:
You can always remake the ring of invisibility to cost more and be a use activated item, but by the RAW Patryn of Elvenshae's right

Note that it wouldn't cost a lot more according to the price guidelines in the DMG.
 


ARandomGod said:
Note that it wouldn't cost a lot more according to the price guidelines in the DMG.

Note that these are merely guidelines.

How exactly do you propose will this thing work? Put it on, fade from sight? What if you break the spell (by attacking)? Reactivate it? Stay invisible? Pull it of and put it on again?
 

Patryn of Elvenshae said:
Except, of course, that dcollins doesn't like the Errata, either, and will insist that a Ring of Invisibility may only be created at CL 3.

Ah, but you WANT CL3 for 'continuous' or 'use activated' invisibility.

Spell level x Character level x 2000 for continuous (x1800 for command word)

of course, spell level (2) times character level (3) = 6.
6*1800 = 10800.
So the designers have determined that a ring of invisibility is worth more than that. However using simple math you can figure out what, assuming that's the cost for command word invisibility, continuous invisibility should cost.

The spell is the same, so we can take Spell Level xCharacter Level as Y.

Y*1800=20,000

Y= 11

So 11*2000 = 22,222. So for two thousand two hundred and twenty two more gold you could get a continuous invisibility. Approximately. I'd round it up and say 25,000.
 

Kae'Yoss said:
Note that these are merely guidelines.

How exactly do you propose will this thing work? Put it on, fade from sight? What if you break the spell (by attacking)? Reactivate it? Stay invisible? Pull it of and put it on again?

Of course they're merely guidelines, or "suggested" rules for the creation of magical items. Note additionally that these items in the DMG are merely guidelines, or "suggested" items. You cannot assume that your GM or any particular campaign will have these items, or even have the spell "invisibility".

But I digress ... how do I propose the suggested continuous ring of invisibility works. (Well command word activated continuous item).

Personally I use it already as a continuous item. You put it on, you fade from view, as stated. Assuming it was 'activated' when it was last removed. There is also a command word (some continuous items do have command words, I view this as a continuous item with a command word). You can command it on and off as a standard action. If you break the spell the item turns off, and needs to be reactivated. This takes a command word and a standard action.

You're invisible from the time you become invisible, either by using the command word to 'turn on' the ring, or by putting on a ring already turned to 'on', until you break the enchantment... which you can do by taking off the ring, using the command word to turn it off, or by attacking (or performing other actions which would cause the spell invisibility to fade).

Edit: You can't command it on AND off as a standard action, you can command it on OR off as a standard action. Sorry.

^_^
 

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