Robert Jordan’s eleventh book - KNIFE OF DREAMS

Only two more books to go, eh? I'd like to believe that, I really would. It just seems to go on and on forever.

Having said that, I will pick this up because I HAVE to see how it ends. Plus, I do think he's a really good writer and reading his stuff makes me write descriptions better.

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The last book really, really ticked me off... but who am I kidding, I'll get it (but probably from the library instead of the bookstore). There are just too many great moments in this series that several of you have already hit upon.
 

I think he should take some ques from Martin and kill off about 10 characters. Especially a couple of the main ones (Nynaeve, I'm looking at you.).
 

Orius said:
So it would seem the bad editing blamed for some of the previous volumes is at least partially the fault of Tor; I suspect they cranked them out as fast as possible to cash in on them. Maybe Jordan read the last book and even he realized it was disappointing. :) In any case, if the latest volume actually goes through some editing, then I have some hopes it will be stronger than Crossroads of Twilight was.

Actually I think the editor of the last books was his wife. From what I understand it seems RJ doesn't take criticism to well. But the reviews of the last book must have gotten to him.

I will get the books though. And I'v reread his series a 2-3 times by now. Except for the last book. I tried to, but I couldn't.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
I heard about that a few months ago, and independently, but even before I knew that, I was trying to get caught up again via audiobook while I commuted to and from work. I never read books 9 or 10.

I seem to be peetering out in book 7--I can't seem to make myself care anymore.

You want spoilers? I'll tell you what'll happen. Nynaeve will yank her braid, Elayne will think about her "moment" with Rand, Aviendha will give someone a look that will drive nin-inch spikes through brick walls, Rand will act like a jerk, Mat will be frustrating and frustrated, Faile will whine and act like a monkey, Perrin will agonize for forty pages about whether or not to pick up a hammer or an axe, and Bela will kick Juilin in the nads. Meanwhile, Robert Jordan will introduce fourteen new major characters, and mysteriously, abruptly and anti-climactically three of the Forsaken will die.

:p I'm in book nine. I know what happens in the end and I can't bring myself to finish it. Book Nine is too monotonous. I think I'll wait for the final book and possibly borrow it from the library or buy the clift notes.

[pessimism]I think many people will be disappointed by the ending and the "loose" ends[/pessimism]
 

iwatt said:
Actually I think the editor of the last books was his wife.

*snip*

I actually read somewhere that his wife has been his editor since Crown of Swords. I bought the prologue and pre-ordered Knife of Dreams from amazon So I've read the prologue and first chapter. And if the rest of the book is as good as what I've read so far, people shouldn't be complaining about it...too much.
 

ssampier said:
[pessimism]I think many people will be disappointed by the ending and the "loose" ends[/pessimism]

Quite. Not only did he not resolve things in the last few books, but drawing them out has left the impression that they are each epic in scope, as well as adding numerous tendrils lying about. I don't have faith that everything can be wrapped up satisfactorily in two books.

The kidnapping of Faile, for example, had best have some sort of major significance. Perrin is ta'verin, after all. He'd best not spend the last half of the war sniffing in the woods or fighting in a minor battle.
 

The Great Hunt remains one of my favorite books. Rand as a very young, but very courageous leader. The desperate chase through dangerous territory. It just clicked for me. But since about book four, The Wheel of Time has gotten progressively worse for me, to the point where I bought one of the latest ones (can't remember which) and couldn't get past the first few chapters. There were some Aes'Sedai that I didn't care about with names that all sound the same, hunting Black Ajah in Elaida's White Tower. I didn't care about them, and yet chapter after chapter I was getting their story, instead of Rand or Matt or Perrin or Lan etc.

That's the thing for me. At first the plot seemed tight. I don't mind long descriptive passages...I am an avid Tad Williams fan, after all :p...but I can't stand meandering pointlessness. And the longer the series continues, the more random, pointless plots seem to arise. Like that whole deal with the Bowl of Winds or whatever it was called. Suddenly it's really hot and only the magic bowl can stop the terrible heat. Ugh. It struck me as so blatantly unconnected a plot, something constructed in order to give Elayne, Egwene, and Nynaeve something to do, rather than something that evolved organically from what had gone before.

And why is it that every woman of power has to be a b**** at the same time? Every last one of them. I'd like to see just one woman with power and authority not believe that she knows better than Rand how to save the world. Just one would be enough. The only one in the entire series was Moiraine (after her change of heart), and of course she disappears shortly after her change. Even worse, women who were sensible somehow become arrogant b--'s the moment they gain power. Egwene used to be a great character. Then she suddenly gets promoted (another silly and convenient plot point, but that's another issue,) and instantly she thinks she knows better than Rand how he should behave. It's like that Great Ring has some kind of arrogance poison in it, to which no woman is immune.

And after ten books of a plot that's moving at a glacially slow pace...you're going to give me an eleventh that takes place at the same time as the tenth?! It was hard enough getting the plot to move forward when the books were sequential. Now that he's gone parallel God only knows how many books he'll be able to crank out without resolving anything.

*sigh* Sorry about the ranting. I think I'm so angry with the series because I saw so much potential in those first books. So much great writing and magificent plotting and dialogue. It's been years since I read the books, but I can still recall some of the scenes and dialogue that I remember gave me goosebumps at the time. Artur Hawkwing sitting his charger, "his great sword Justice shone like a mirror in his fist." Rand's battle with the High Lord on the hilltop. "Let us see what it takes to earn the Heron on this side of the ocean."

So much goodness. But alas, at least for me, that potential's been wasted. There's as much garbage as greatness in The Wheel of Time now, and it upsets me every time I think about it. :(
 

My problem, the girls, if this book can keep away from them the better. Also, hope time frame is better, I think the last book was everything that took place in a three day period and each book has been a reduction in time, I would hate to see: 600 pages of this is what happens today detailed.
 

I believe Jordan when he says this is the second-to-last.
I believe Jordan when he says there will be no new prequel series.

But I also believe that Jordan will leave a lot of loose threads and not tie them up for the last book. If we want to find out what happens to some medium-to-big characters, well, there will be other books for that.
 

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