Robert Jordan Conan Stories, are other Conan stories like this?

Sir Osis of Liver said:
Jordan's weren't bad. Some of the other modern writers did ok too, but Howards origanal stuff is by far the best.

My thoughts exactly. Other authors have written enjoyable Conan stories, but they don't compare to the original Conan stories by Robert E. Howard.
 

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blackshirt5 said:
OK, I'm reading a bunch of the Robert Jordan "Conan" stories, and while I'm into them and all, especially how The Red Hawk is a continuing plotline throughout quite a few, but has anybody else noticed that when it comes time for the biggest and best part of the stories, the big fights against whatever supernatural beastie Conan is going to slay(be it demon, wizard, or dragon), he boils it down to "Conan stabs it, it's dead"? It seems kinda disappointing to me.

The reason it always ends that way were he Stabs a powerful being while it is dead is because its his tradmark way of saying I finally kill the @$*&! , so to make sure that this @*&$! won't comeback so I'm going to stab him again.
 

jdavis said:
I don't know a Jordan book that spends the all the time on story and then squeezes the fight into the very last page, that sounds very Jordan. Has he done any chapters that were just Conan taking a bath?

ARRRRGGGG!!! The pain! Make it stop!

Seriously though, I don't remember Jordan wasting paper as much as he did with Elaine in the last WoT book.

Haven't read any of the Conan books, I heard Jordan's books were ok but everybody I have ever talked to about it said the originals were the best.

I'd really have to go back and read them again. The two writers whose style I'm most familiar with are Howard and de Camp, and there's no real competition there, Howard was clearly better. I don't remember exactly how Jordan stacks up. I do remember that his stories are grittier than Howard's. He does have some recurring characters that reapper thoughout several novels IIRC, which is unusual for Conan, most of the stories tend to be self-contained. However, some of his writing in those books tend to be a bit weak, at least compared to the earlier books in the WoT series.
 

blackshirt5 said:
I'm reading the Howard and De Camp stories after these ones are over, I'm on the last Jordan story I've got right now. They can all be boiled down to the basic principle of "Conan spent his coin on ale and whores, now he needs more ale and more whores, hey let's kill a sorcerer while we're writing it anyway."

That could summarize a large number of Conan stories, not just Jordan's. Sure, a lot of it (or damn near most of it) isn't high literature, but they're fun romps anyway.
 

I've read most all of the Conan stories. To sum up...

The original Robert E. Howard stories, the Lin Carter stories and the Sprague De Camp (who actually do a modestly good job of emulating Howard's style) stories are similar in style to the movie Conan the Barbarian.

The Robert Jordan stories and others are more like the movie Conan the Destroyer.

Watch one movie right after the other, and you'll see what I mean.
 

To his credit, I will say that L. Sprague De Camp is probably the best non-Howard Conan author.

However, I am disgusted by the way De Camp made edits to Howard's Conan stories so that they'd mesh better with his own stories. If you are reading the books that contain both De Camp and Howard Conan stories, you can be certain that you aren't reading the original, unaltered Conan stories.
 
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Pbartender said:

The Robert Jordan stories and others are more like the movie Conan the Destroyer.

FWIW...

I believe Jordan did a novelization of Conan the Destroyer.

Since I am evilly-aligned, and therefore enjoy causing pain and suffering, I couldn't resist slipping that in there...
 

Dark Jezter said:
To his credit, I will say that L. Sprague De Camp is probably the best non-Howard Conan author.

However, I am disgusted by the way De Camp made edits to Howard's Conan stories so that they'd mesh better with his own stories. If you are reading the books that contain both De Camp and Howard Conan stories, you can be certain that you aren't reading the original, unaltered Conan stories.

I'm aware of de Camp's changes. I think in fact his changes make me dislike his work more so than I might had I been unaware of them. And I don't really like the way de Camp wrote Conan anyway; his style is a lot different than Howard's
 

Orius said:


FWIW...

I believe Jordan did a novelization of Conan the Destroyer.

Since I am evilly-aligned, and therefore enjoy causing pain and suffering, I couldn't resist slipping that in there...

Robert Jordan wrote the sceenplay to Conan the Destroyer, IIRC.

John Milius wrote the script to Conan the Barbarian.

Luckily, John Milius also wrote the script for the upcoming King Conan: Crown of Iron, which could be Arnold's next project after Terminator 3 if the studio executives can get off their butts and begin pre-production.

EDIT: Never mind, Robert Jordan did not write the screenplay to Conan the Destroyer, only the novelization.
 
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Pbartender said:
I've read most all of the Conan stories. To sum up...

The original Robert E. Howard stories, the Lin Carter stories and the Sprague De Camp (who actually do a modestly good job of emulating Howard's style) stories are similar in style to the movie Conan the Barbarian.

The Robert Jordan stories and others are more like the movie Conan the Destroyer.

Watch one movie right after the other, and you'll see what I mean.

I tend to agree with this assessment. :)
 

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