Robilar's Challenge or Karmic Strike

[Rystil Arden]

I wouldn't allow it.

I think by RAW that they are indeed provoking two AoOs, much like a Wizard who moves ten feet (but still in your melee range) and then casts a spell. Similarly, they are attacking and then hitting.

 

[hong]

I think by RAW that they are indeed provoking two AoOs, much like a Wizard who moves ten feet (but still in your melee range) and then casts a spell. Similarly, they are attacking and then hitting.

Maybe, but I still wouldn't allow it.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Maybe, but I still wouldn't allow it.

Granted. Of course, they're likely to run out of AoOs pretty quickly if theis is allowed.

 

[drdevoid]

Granted. Of course, they're likely to run out of AoOs pretty quickly if theis is allowed.

And your opponent is going to be +8 to atk.

 

[Rystil Arden]

And your opponent is going to be +8 to atk.

This too. It might be worth it to Combat Expertise though (or Improved Combat Expertise). The -5 to attack cancels out more than half of that and makes your chance to hit with all these attacks just like your second iterative attack.

 

[hong]

And your opponent is going to be +8 to atk.

Maybe, but I'm still not going to allow it.

 

[PallidPatience]

Is there a reason you find it overpowered, Hong?

 

[Bryan898]

I'd say the edge goes to Karmic Strike just because you can get it at such a lower level.

Can you get two AoO's if they had both feats. Isn't there a rule somewhere about not being able to provoke more than one AoO for a single action from the same creature?

On another note, I think it works brilliantly with Elusive Target's Negate Power Attack ability. Great for taking on the BBEG toe to toe, or large creatures.

 

[hong]

Is there a reason you find it overpowered, Hong?

Getting one extra attack each time your opponent attacks/hits, on top of your regular attacks, is already pretty good. Getting 2 extra attacks goes into crazy territory, and the +8 and limit on AoOs won't slow down a smart powergamer.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Getting one extra attack each time your opponent attacks/hits, on top of your regular attacks, is already pretty good. Getting 2 extra attacks goes into crazy territory, and the +8 and limit on AoOs won't slow down a smart powergamer.

They only get 2 if the opponent successfully hits them for +4 Damage though. The smart power-gamer tries to stay unhit despite Robi's Gambit