RotK and Passion

[Ranger REG]

Peter Jackson, man! How could you of all people fail to mention him?

Not that I want to label him as a genre film director, but I'm afraid he'll make such a biblical film too fantasy-like.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

As I said earlier, regardless of one's opinion of it, the Bible is, and likely always will be, the best and most detailed historical document of the area and the time period.

actually, thats whats called an opinion. Just saying, its pretty silly to say, in essence, "regardless of opinion, my opinion is true." :\ To call it the best and most detailed, begs the question of its accuracy. If it is inaccurate, it isn't the best, and the number of details are irrelevant to it as a "historical record" if the details were added over oral retellings for years before anyone cannonized the accounts.

The bible as history is a very complicated question, and giving your opinion "regardless of opinion" is just arrogance. It is the connonical telling of a story very important to you. Leave its absolute accuracy out of it, and I doubt there is anyone here who will argue the point. But if you want it to be a historical document, yet benefit from the board rules that would make any serious challange to that assertion forbidden religious argument, you are preaching your religion's accuracy to a captive audience. That seems to me inappropriate.

Kahuna burger

 

[Dark Jezter]

Y'know, with the success of TPotC, and with the current trend in Hollywood to remake films, I wonder if there's some writer, producer, or other bigwig out there thinking about remaking The Ten Commandments (possibly w/ Chuck Heston playing the elder Pharoah or some other elder-gent part).

As neat as that would be, I think Charlton Heston's acting days are over. He's suffering from Alzheimer's disease.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

BTW: Yeah, Kesh is right. Mel did say that. However, I don't see what the big deal is. Last I checked, EVERY religion said they were the one true path. If you don't believe that, then why do you even believe in that religion in the first place, if you believe that all religions are equal or whatever? Is that kind of certainty REALLY any different then an atheist's certainty that there's no afterlife? Mel says if you ain't Catholic then you're going to Hell. Atheists say that no matter how good you are you're still gonna vanish into the same oblivion that everyone else, good or bad, vanishes into. That applies to any kind of moral position a person takes, ranging from religion to politics to ethics and philosophy and so on. Either you stand for something, or you're a wishy-washy person who doesn't stand for anything. Whatever the case, much ado about nothing.

Three points. One, I know many people from different religions who consider their religion to be their path to salvation but are open to the idea that other religions may providean equally valid path to others. Your first point is innacurate, and make sweeping generalizations about essentially a whole world of people who you may not have made an effort to understand before telling them what they believe.

Second, and more specificly, your off the cuff comments about the entire population of atheists are also false. Non believers in g/God(s) come in many flavors, some of whom do believe in an afterlife and many of whom lack that belief, but also lack the certainty so many critics falsely assign to them.

Third, saying anyone who isn't as hidebound and dogmatic as you seem to think they need to be is "wishy washy" and believes in nothing, says a hell of a lot more about your own shortcomings than it does those who don't need to impose their beliefs or decisions on the whole world in order to justify them to themselves.

Basicly, you have attempted to tell everyone on this board what they believe, instead of sticking to what you believe, or the beliefs actual people have shared with you. I considerthat rude in general, and insulting to my philosophy which you have lied about in particular.

kahuna burger

 

[Wormwood]

Could y'all please not get this thread closed until we see next week's Box Office returns?

Pretty please?

 

[Wormwood]

Total domestic box office returns as of Mar. 7, 2004: $212,034,000 (Estimate)

Comparison to LotR (over same 2 weekend period):
Fellowship of the Ring: $155,862,412
The Two Towers: $200,058,231
The Return of the King: $222,268,708

Very interesting.

Source: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=passionofthechrist.htm

 

[Henry]

I'm closing this thread for two reasons:

1) The topic was the box office receipts in comparison to ROtK and other blockbusters. I think the film has proven it has a good deal of popularity, more than many critics assumed it would.

2) The discussion of religious theology, and personal beliefs, is getting a little too heated for what's considered healthy discussion. When the line crosses between discussion of a religious-related topic, and the actual religions themselves, it's time to close things down to both cool things down and keep the board on-topic.