Rystil's Blossoming Strife--An Amaranthian Adventure OOC

[Bront]

I agree. I understand point buys, I just disagree with how it handles high stats, 18s being that much more expensive than 16s, which are that much more expensive than 14s. That, and I think having a bit of variety in stats as far as odds, evens, lows, and highs, makes for generaly more interesting characters. There is a set in my system with the entire aray being 12-15, but I think there's only 1 12, and 3 14s or 15s.

In fact, here there are (because I can):
Set 1: 18, 17, 15, 12, 11, 8
Set 2: 16, 16, 15, 13, 11, 10
Set 3: 15, 14, 14, 13, 13, 12
Set 4: 18, 15, 15, 15, 10, 8
Set 5: 16, 15, 14, 13, 13, 10
Set 6: 18, 17, 17, 13, 8, 8
Set 7: 18, 17, 15, 15, 10, 6
Set 8: 18, 14, 13, 13, 12, 11

Good variety, I think they're about even play/balance wise, gives the player some choice, but it's limited to the point where there's some sacrifice at some point as well. I think in the 15 characters I've seen created with this, every set has been used once already. For my runemaiden, I'd probably pick Set 7, 1, or 2.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Actually, insane ability scores are required for most of the best combos that break the game, and conversely, many of the game's normal options are not balanced assuming insane ability scores.

If someone doesn't mind a few 8s than really this can be done well enough with stand point buy...

 

[Bront]

That was me, and I'm still pretty surprised that you allowed that one set--it would have been especially crazy for a fighter who didn't care about his mental stats. As for the Point Buy system, I'd say its pretty solid. Certainly 1-for-1 doesn't work in the case of 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13 vs 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 8. In fact, 16, 16, 16, 8, 8, 8 is probably better than all 13s for many character concepts, and almost certainly 16, 14, 14, 12, 12, 8 is better too. But hey, I won't complain if I can have better stats

That's where some roleplay comes in as well. That's part of what provides some game balance to everything else, is holding true to a concept of a character beyond what is best in the rules.

Anyway, I need sleep, need to be up in 4 hours and at work around 6.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

That's where some roleplay comes in as well. That's part of what provides some game balance to everything else, is holding true to a concept of a character beyond what is best in the rules.

Yup, couldn't agree more... I've been tempted to allow people to just pick their ability scores also.

Anyway, I need sleep, need to be up in 4 hours and at work around 6.

Nighty night.

 

[Rystil Arden]

If someone doesn't mind a few 8s than really this can be done well enough with stand point buy...

Not really--most standard point buy won't allow more than one 18, no matter what. To really start abusing the rules left and right without much effort, you need better. In general, something like 18 18 16 16 12 8 can easily abuse the rules, whereas 15 15 15 15 14 14 will not do so.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

If you say so RA.

 

[Rystil Arden]

If you say so RA.

Just trust me, high starting stats turn several easy multiclass characters into a nightmare and break a few of the systems--armour, for instance (in a game with really high stats, the guy wearing the full plate will always be much easier to hit than the ones wearing no armour).

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Just trust me, high starting stats turn several easy multiclass characters into a nightmare and break a few of the systems--armour, for instance (in a game with really high stats, the guy wearing the full plate will always be much easier to hit than the ones wearing no armour).

RA, please I tried to drop this once already. Please let me.

 

[Bront]

Obviously, this hasn't started yet, and no big deal. Rystil, I'm willing to wait till after you start school to make sure you have the time for this one. Though I'm still interested in creating characters, because that's fun

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Bront, I think we should make epic level nymphs… would do you think?

I agree, this one can wait till later. Lets get the other games started first. (and maybe get some PC merged together also.)