S.H.I.N.Y. (Save Harm/Haste/Hypnotism/Hold Monster In the New Year)--Membership Drive

nemmerle said:
Hmmm, I never worried much about Harm as in my game all the inflict wounds spells channel negative energy, and thus their use is inherently evil. :D

No good PC could even ask it of their god!

Ay, but there's the rub. Doesn't Pelor grant the Destruction domain? If they'd just give Harm an evil descriptor, they wouldn't have to monkey with it.

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Re: Re: Re:S.H.I.N.Y. (Save Harm In the New Year)--Membership Drive

Darkness said:
...if you aren't good enough to do so.

Whatever. As though we needed that kind of comment from Piratecat's self-identified lackey.

You're banned from S.H.I.N.Y., Darkness. Go back to your P-cat idolatry.
 

I support the revision! You'll NEVER have the original Harm back, do you hear me, you do-gooding fools? NEVER!! AHHH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH!!!!

Soon, every DM who had to house rule that confounded spell will be free from having to look his disappointed players in the eye! Harm will be so nerfed that you could safely cast it on a toddler JUST TO TICKLE HIM!! Not that you'll ever live to see that... The 3 o'clock train should be here momentarily. Oh, yes, there's the plume of smoke over the woods to the east. You have maybe four minutes to live, my dear... I suggest you spend that time thinking about just why you want to save the spell in the FIRST place. I may be a villain, but at least I'm not a powergamer! Wha-hahahah!! I'll see you in hell!
 

How can you all be arguing this when there's are spells that are even more broken that need fixing?!?!

I refer to those two worst offenders:

Hypnotism
and
Hold Portal!




Why won't anyone think about the children?!?
 

Ah, Dr. Midnight...my arch-nemesis. We meet again.

I'm sure that in the miserable annals of EN World your efforts to discredit S.H.I.N.Y. will be duly enshrined. Seal you with a curse, as sharp as a knife, doomed is-a your soul, and a-damned is your life.

Dr Midnight said:
I support the revision!

You won't gain many friends making admissions like that!

WizarDru said:
How can you all be arguing this when there's are spells that are even more broken that need fixing?!?!

I refer to those two worst offenders:

Hypnotism
and
Hold Portal!


Why won't anyone think about the children?!?

I've already started organizations to save both of these spells. They are called S.H.I.N.Y. and S.H.I.N.Y., respectively.
 
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I'm in! Damn my DM for house ruling Harm!

If you nerf harm... whats next?

Vorpal weapons?
Power Word Stun?
Improved Invisibility?
Haste?

Soon.. every spell is going to be fireball.... BOOORRRIIINGGGG...

Come on DMs.. don't whine.. just use it against us!
 

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