Savage Species - Time to test it out

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This Friday night our group are all creating savage species characters to play in a series of short (1-2 session length) adventures. We will have about 15 ECL's to play with and I need some help. I personally have never looked at SS but have heard both good & bad things.

If you were going to create a 15th lvl ECL character what monster would you play?

What mix of character/monster levels would you take? Would you go 15+ lvls of monster or are there some classes that mesh well with certain monsters?
 

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The big problem is that spellcasters don't work well with high ECL races, because you lose out on so many spellcasting levels. Although if everyone in the party is a monster and the DM takes the lack of spellcasting in the party into account, there shouldn't be any problems. You generally get a lot more synergy with the more physical classes. I would be wary of any super-high ECL races in any case.

For example, let's say you want a mind flayer psion (or sorcerer). Mind Flayers have an ECL of 15, so with your party you wouldn't even start off with any class levels. Of course, you can use plane shift, astral projection (which theoretically means you never need subject yourself to physical harm), charm monster, and mind blast at will. But when you gain your first class level you get... some first level spells. That you cast as a first level caster. Doesn't do a whole lot of good for a 16th level character.

So, if you want a spellcaster, use low-ECL races. If you want a combat type, look for low-to-mid-ECL races that maximize your class abilities.

Some races to watch out for:
* Half-ogres are way too good for a +1 ECL race, and you could easily make a devastating melee character (fighter, barbarian, melee cleric, etc.) if you play to its size and strength.
* Pixies get some really powerful spell-like abilities for only being a +5 race, although by 15th level most foes will probably be able to negate its advantages. But even then you still get Otto's Irresistable Dance 1/day if your Charisma is high enough.
* A 15th level Ghaele Celestial can cast spells as a 14th level cleric and gets a whole mess of specials on top of that. Very overpowered.

EDIT: I would probably go for a thri-kreen fighter specialized in multi-weapon fighting.
 
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Re: Re: Savage Species - Time to test it out

* Half-ogres are way too good for a +1 ECL race, and you could easily make a devastating melee character (fighter, barbarian, melee cleric, etc.) if you play to its size and strength.

Mmmmm, 10' reach for +1 ECL...

* Pixies get some really powerful spell-like abilities for only being a +5 race, although by 15th level most foes will probably be able to negate its advantages. But even then you still get Otto's Irresistable Dance 1/day if your Charisma is high enough.

Mmmm, +8 Dex and +6 Cha... the AC possibilities are insane... :D

-Hyp.
 

15 levels to work with?

15 ECL Astral Deva :D

Always wanted to play one...

And you don't have the problem of not-so-special class levels after that. The Astral Deva progression takes you up to 20th level. Better abilities just keep coming :).
 
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Githzerai Monk 7/Psychic Warrior 6. Still my favorite. After this, you can fold levels of Diamond Warrior in evenly. Delicious, delicious combination.
 

Good ideas here

I like that pixie idea HyperSmurf - The roleplaying ideas are endless I like the pixie gone bad (the sort of tooth fairy that collects your teeth with her club ;) )
If I could only work out a way to get an evil amount of physical damage from what would be a crap strength score?

I must admit a pixie paladin has a certain appeal as well - weapon finesse a keen rapier with improved critical .....hmmm
(unfortuntely I can forsee me wanting to use poison on the rapier to make up for my strength - I better make that a blackguard pixie :) )

Questions:

But how does the Cha bonus help AC?

And another question - with a 10' reach and a larged sized reach weapon - are you looking at a 15' reach?
I will also have to check out the Ghaele Celestial when I can.

If anyone else has a favourite savage species character let me know.

.........
I suppose 1/2 orge - 1/2 pixie is out :D
 




Ghaele, Trumpet Archon, and Astral Deva are popular choices I think.

The only issue I'll mention is you'll want to consider what happens the first time an enemy cleric casts dismissal at you, and you fail your saving throw.

Not only that, but 1/5 of the time you wont' even end up on your home plane, but some other plane!

Skaros
 

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