Save for Nothing

[dvvega]

Greetings,

Evasion lets you save for no damage from a Reflex based effect.

I think Mettle does this for Fortitude.

Is there one for Will? And are any of these available as feats?

D

 

[Corsair]

Mettle does Fortitude -AND- Will.

 

[zalgar07]

Mettle

Mettle effects both Fortitude AND Will saves.
Neither are available as feats without DM's permission.
Mettle, as far as my memory goes, is only given to the Pious Templar PrC in Complete Divine.

Personally, I would like to see it as a more common class feature...most appropriate for Clr, Pal or Drd because of their saves. Feh. It's a fairly new rule...that's why it's under-used...but a good one.

 

[dvvega]

So some kind of Ranger/Pious Templar or Rogue/Pious or some other combination with Evasion could conceivably be immune to everything under the sun (well almost anyways)?

Hmmm ... better get that black marker out and attack Complete Divine

D

 

[Hypersmurf]

So some kind of Ranger/Pious Templar or Rogue/Pious or some other combination with Evasion could conceivably be immune to everything under the sun (well almost anyways)?

Most Will- and Fort-based effects are Save Negates already. There's a fairly limited number of Fort Partial or Will Partial effects for Mettle to help against.

-Hyp.

 

[Zandel]

You still have to make the save otherwise it's half damage.

 

[Krafen]

The Hexblade (CW) gets Mettle at 3rd.

 

[Guero Caballero]

A new player in my campaign, when directed to make a 9th level PC, came back with a Rogue2/Hexblade7. The Mettle/Evasion combo still didn't help with the Ambush Drake poison, however

 

[Staffan]

Mettle, as far as my memory goes, is only given to the Pious Templar PrC in Complete Divine.

There's also the Sohei class from Oriental Adventures.

 

[Scharlata]

Most Will- and Fort-based effects are Save Negates already. There's a fairly limited number of Fort Partial or Will Partial effects for Mettle to help against.

Hi!

Not at all an extensive list, but a start...

1st Level
Cause Fear
Chill Touch
Parching Touch SA (Sandstorm)
Sunstroke SA

2nd Level
Belker Claws PLH (Planar Handbook)
Blade of Pain and Fear LM (Libris Mortis)
City Lights RoD (Races of Destiny)
Darkbolt LoM (Lords of Madness)
Dessicate SA
Earthbind DRAC (Draconomicon)
Ghoul Glyph LM
Phantasmal Assailants CA (Complete Arcane)
Scare
Scimitar of Sand SA
Wracking Touch CV (Complete Adventurer)
Zone of Glacial Cold FB (Frostburn)

3rd Level
Arctic Haze FB
Brilliant Emanation BoED (Book of Exalted Deeds)
Crack Ice FB
Hammer of Righteousness BoED
Ray of Exhaustion
Spectral Weapon CV
Storm Mote SA

4th Level
Burning Blood CA
Defenestrating Sphere CA
Fear
Mindfrost FB
Orb of Acid CA
Orb of Cold CA
Orb of Electricity CA
Orb of Fire CA
Orb of Force CA
Orb of Sound CA
Parboil SA
Phantasmal Killer
Radiant Fog BoED
Searing Exposure SA
Wither SA

5th Level
Blight
Cloudkill
Flesh to Salt SA
Gelid Blood FB
Night's Caress LM
Opalescent Glare PLH
Reciprocal Gyre CA
Sleep Mote SA
Wall of Ooze BoVD (Book of Vile Darkness)

6th Level
Arrow of Bone CA
Dessicate, Mass SA
Disintegrate
Heartfreeze FB
Illusory Pit CA
Mummify SA

7th Level
Avasculate LM
Cacophonic Shield CV
Death by Thorns BoVD
Finger of Death
Flesh to Salt, Mass SA
Rapture of Rupture BoVD
Tomb of Light BoED

8th Level
Antipathy
Avascular Mass LM
Axiomatic Creature BoED
Demand
Flensing CA
Gutwrench BoVD
Horrid Wilting
Last Judgement BoED

9th Level
Energy Drain
Frostfell FB
Sphere of Ultimate Destruction CA
Weird