Scarred Lands Forsaken Elves; their Nameless God

Nightfall said:
Obviously I'm not quiting the Scarred Lands any time soon. Not even after I'm dead. :p Unhallowed for me folks! ;)

I'm new to Scarn and the Scarred Lands and as an experienced DM (going back to 1st Ed AD&D and the Arduin Grimoire) I 'm excited about the concept of the setting.

My group is now in a high level adventure and I'll be shoving them into the Oathbound campaign for the next few months, but we'll be starting with new 1st level characters this next year. I've bought most of the printed material for Scarred Lands and I plan on using this as a starting point and since I'm obsessive, I've been reading much to get my ideas spinning.

Well, I just ordered the trilogy from an online store about 2 hours ago and just now read this thread. Will these books enhance the flavor of the land or spoil it with an overbearing metaplot? Now I am not sure if I should even read them....

Anyway.... on another note.... what "starting location" have all you Scarn Masters used and what plot hooks have gotten your players drooling to keep playing?

cats_claw
 

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cats_claw said:
Well, I just ordered the trilogy from an online store about 2 hours ago and just now read this thread. Will these books enhance the flavor of the land or spoil it with an overbearing metaplot? Now I am not sure if I should even read them....

Anyway.... on another note.... what "starting location" have all you Scarn Masters used and what plot hooks have gotten your players drooling to keep playing?
Regarding the first question: I think it's a matter of taste. I don't believe the trilogy detracts that much. But I will say it's not like epic must reads. So if you read it, it's nice but not necessary. I don't see it as an overbearing metaplot since it's not like someone goes and assassinates King Virduk or Yugman.

I've had a couple games. One set in Hollowfaust. The other in Fangsfall. I'm considering doing one in Shelzar...but might switch over to Darakeene. Termana is nice too. :)
 

As I've stated before my favorite setting is Greyhawk but my next setting is Scarred Lands though I'm about to be current on all the SL releases (I'm waiting for employee appreciation days, which start Friday, so I can get the bigger discount) I'm waayyy behind on my readings of the products. :(

I bought the original gray box for FR and I just never really enjoyed it so I never got lost in the Realms so basicly I never forgot them (as I read over that I see have really bad that is, but I just have to leave in this post).

And yes Nightfall, your book is sitting on the shelf just waiting for me to purchase it. :D
 

Nightfall said:
I've had a couple games. One set in Hollowfaust. The other in Fangsfall. I'm considering doing one in Shelzar...but might switch over to Darakeene. Termana is nice too. :)

Do you recommend starting the Serpent modules, the free and the three? I was thinking in Hollowfaust or Mithril, but who knows.

I am going to give the players a mini write up of each area, ask what kind of class they want to play and then have them build the characters with the aid of the Players Books. Then I'll take their characters and their histories (which they will write and I will edit with some campaign flavor and go from there. It seems that the players may decide some of the "starting location", but I'll use hooks from the books to aid my planning.

cats_claw
 

cats_claw said:
Do you recommend starting the Serpent modules, the free and the three? I was thinking in Hollowfaust or Mithril, but who knows.

Oh and one other thing, I have heard some very mixed reviews of Penumbral Pentagon and quite frankly some of the reviews were pretty bad. Is this group pretty tightly integrated into the land and should I get the book anyway so that I have at least a bit of an idea of what they are like??

cats_claw
 

cats_claw said:
Well, I just ordered the trilogy from an online store about 2 hours ago and just now read this thread. Will these books enhance the flavor of the land or spoil it with an overbearing metaplot? Now I am not sure if I should even read them....

Anyway.... on another note.... what "starting location" have all you Scarn Masters used and what plot hooks have gotten your players drooling to keep playing?

Well, in regards to the novels...well, they exist, so you may as well read them. I never said they were bad in and of themselves, just that I don't see them having much of a good effect upon the Scarred Lands as a role-playing setting. As I said with the Dragonlance novels, excellent books, but they helped to make the setting feel stagnant and done to me. I've found at times that novels and role-playing books don't always translate well from one to the other. I believe, to a degree, it's reasons like that which have made games like Dungeons and Dragons more popular than those such as Middle Earth Role-Playing. While reading about a plot hook being completed in a novel might be fun, once done, that plot hook is no longer quite so strongly compelling to use in your games.

But as avidly as I would recommend reading the Hickman and Weis novels, I would also say, don't let my little rant turn you off to the Forsaken trilogy. It's my hope that future novels like that don't come out, not that the ones which already exist aren't read. And, as a side note, I'm not against novels, either. Just ones with fairly intrusive events. But...I'm belaboring the point. My apologies.

Anyway! Starting location and plot hooks for my Scarred Lands game...? Heh. Well, I try to be unbiased, but, no one is ever completely so. So perhaps take my previous words with a grain of salt in light of this. The plot hook my current Scarred Lands game hinges on would be...the resurrection of That Which Abides. Sooo...there you have that. It's a meaty little plot hook, and the forsaken elves were the absolutely most compelling race out of the Scarred Lands, in my opinion. Ratmen? Asaatthi? All have their merits, but I dug the forsaken elves. For that matter, at least one of my players also got into the Scarred Lands because of the forsaken elves, and I believe the general consensus amongst my group is that they're all kinds of keen. The Autumn Blade, the Shards of the Forsaken, the race themselves...plotilicious. At least for anyone who doesn't intend on using the Forsaken trilogy in their campaign. Starting location would have been in Trella, the wee New Veniran village in the free Serpent Amphora adventure, which I used for simplicities sake when I first started off the campaign. However, I swiftly brought the campaign to Hedrad, which was where I initially planned on starting the game off, and may yet use as a starting point for another Scarred Lands game.

Furthermore, I figure should I ever run another Scarred Lands game after my current one, it will revolve around Enkili having tricked the gods into the Divine War, having never lost his powers by Mesos' hand, and the reason why Vangal showed Lethene mercy - so he could use her to his advantage later when he set his sights on killing all the gods. I figure I'll tie the two together in some way where the characters need to, in some way, convince the gods not to punish Enkili, lest the deities death or punishment in some way lead to Vangal bringing about the end times for Scarn. But that's something that's only as of recently started kicking about in my head, so it's not entirely fleshed out. I've pondered on writing out a full-scale, epic adventure for it, but, well...1% inspiration, 99% perspiration. I've got the 1% going for me right now...heh.
 

Alaric_Prympax said:
And yes Nightfall, your book is sitting on the shelf just waiting for me to purchase it. :D
Thanks Alaric! :)


Cat's,

I do recommend The Serpent Amphora Trilogy as it has a lot of nice stuff in it. But realistically I feel you can start them anywhere you want. I also think your write up thing is good. But if you do the Serpent Amphora, it's alright to not do the pre-quel first. (The download I mean.) There are a number of places you can start out that work well. Shelzar, Lokil, Hedrad, even those provinces nominally under Calastian control such as New Venir, (borders at any rate), Zakiske, and the Heteronomy of Virduk.

As for the Penumbral Book...I'm not too much for it. I don't mind it for completeness sake. But as far as the book itself goes, it doesn't give much insight and is often contraditory to some of previous material. Realistically while it gives some...interesting ideas, I don't see it as fun as it could have been. Especially comparing it to say a better book like Secrets and Societies or Blood Bayou.
 

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Here is the cover for Echoes of the Past: Slacerian Legacy. This is just a possible cover art folks...

and here is Blood Sea: The Crimson Abyss:

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Nightfall Here is the cover for Echoes of the Past: Slacerian Legacy. This is just a possible cover art folks... and here is Blood Sea: The Crimson Abyss: [/QUOTE said:
Very, very cool.

Oh the gears are turning....


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