Scry and Basilisks

Azazu · Jul 7, 2004

Can you scry someone that has been turned to stone by a basilisk??

Oscar carramiñana · Jul 7, 2004

Yes he is turned into stone, but continues alive.

RigaMortus · Jul 7, 2004

If you scry on a basilisk, are you susceptible to their gaze attack?

Oscar carramiñana · Jul 7, 2004

If you scry on a basilisk, are you susceptible to their gaze attack?

I don't think so.
The Basilisk, can't see you.

sledged · Jul 7, 2004

RigaMortus said:
If you scry on a basilisk, are you susceptible to their gaze attack?

"Hey, Mortimer! I think I've found that basili--"

I would say scrying a basilisk counts as looking at it's image:

"Looking at the creature's image (such as in a mirror or as part of an illusion) does not subject viewer to a gaze attack."

Azazu · Jul 7, 2004

From the SRD - "Flesh to Stone"
"The subject, along with all its carried gear, turns into a mindless, inert statue. If the statue resulting from this spell is broken or damaged, the subject (if ever returned to its original state) has similar damage or deformities. The creature is not dead, but it does not seem to be alive either when viewed with spells such as deathwatch."

I know the Basilisks gaze attack does not duplicate the flesh to stone spell but it is very similar. Can you Scry a Mindless, inert statue as the spell states.

thought??

thanks

AuraSeer · Jul 7, 2004

Sure you can scry a mindless, inert person, because he's still a person. Even though his mind is turned off and he's not doing anything, he's not dead and his soul does not depart-- the unique thing that defines his identity is still there, attached to the statue.

Piratecat · Jul 8, 2004

I'd say no. That "does not seem to be alive" seems pretty clear to me. If you're petrified you're an object, not a person.

the Jester · Jul 8, 2004

I've never actually done my rules-lawyer research on this, but I've always allowed it to work in the past.

Len · Jul 8, 2004

If you think it should work like the flesh to stone spell, then ...hmm... The person seems dead but isn't dead. The effect of scry is a "magical sensor" that can see a "creature". If they're not dead, they're still a creature, and can be scried, I say. But the basilisk's description doesn't say much about its petrifying gaze, so the DM is free to decide regardless.

Heck, isn't it more fun to allow scrying? Wouldn't a DM want the party to be able to see the stony form of their missing companion, in an unknown location, about to be smashed to bits by some diabolical contraption?