Seriously considering dropping the hobby

Raven Crowking said:
Life is too short to play games you don't enjoy.

Life's too short to play with *people* you don't enjoy.

I can't believe down there you can't find a group that you'd fit into. It seems like every day here I read about some cool sounding game someone in that general vicinity is running.

FWIW, we're sorta soul-brothers on this one. We're about the same age (no kid, though), and sound like we have the same preferences. So there are more of us out there -- keep looking. Try posting on the Gamers Seeking Gamers board, maybe, and explicitly spell out what kind of game your're looking for/to run, and see if you get any bites.

(As far as talking about your four-year-old instead of the latest action flick, though -- that's a married vs. single thing, that ain't age :) )
 

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Threads like this occassionally crop up. People sometimes get tired of the game and want to quit or at least take a break. This is, of course, fine and indeed may be appropriate to their situation and state of happiness/fun. From what you write, however, your case is rather different. You have not grown tired of the game - it is merely the style of gaming that you perceive to be in vogue that agitates you. As such, looking for a new group is a better solution than quiting the game. Believe me, there are still many people out there, who prefer your style of gaming and don't argue about the rules at all. In fact, I find that they are not at all uncommon. Happy gaming! :)
 

Dykstrav said:
... I've had the impression that gaming is far less important to most people than politics and religion, so why are gamers being so divisive nowadays?
Maybe it is because the outcome of any disucssion on what or what is not good or bad in gaming has no consequences. The world doesn't care about edition wars, and they don't lead to actual war. Religion, politics, those can lead to actual wars and bloodshed, so I think people have a greater sensitivity on those topics.


Compound this issue with the fact that as a gamer, there's an expectation for you to like anime and video games and all the other "weird kid" stuff that's cool now, and it's difficult to find any common ground for discussion. Am I being unreasonable for basing my games on classical mythology and literature instead of video games and anime? Are there any other gamers out there who run games inspired by the Iliad and Conan: the Barbarian instead of Final Fantasy and 300?
No and Yes. :) I wouldn't say we are Iliad based, too high powered. :)
My own setting and what I've played in are very much based off Hyborean REH like setting. We're also pretty happy with "bland" character options, no Half-A, Half-B, unless you want half-elf or half-orc, also no prestige classes.

I haven't gamed regularly in almost a year now because it's just too many hoops to jump through and too many issues to smooth over to get a group of players that want to actually design characters that are more than a list of powers and meet regularly without the game devolving into either a debate over rules minutiae or devolve into a skulking/shouting match. I'm really disappointed in both the products and the players these days.
Maybe go with older/other product and/or older players. I never let a product dictate what I do, never have, and take offense at companies that explicitly or implicitly try to tell me otherwise. My money flows to them not the other way around. When they pay me I'll let them tell me how to play.


Should I just give up the game for good? Or is there hope of finding players that want to make PHB characters and loot a dungeon every once in a while?
Sure there is hope, you just have to fidn the right players.

Sorry if this rambled a bit, but I'm increasingly frustrated with a hobby that was once my favorite pastime. I'd really value some constructive input on why we keep playing.
I'd suggest looking for some older gamers (40+) and ones who are pretty open minded about system. This may be personal prejudice (being in the 40+ crowd) but as a general rule such players I've found are less likely to be difficult (with a one true way or one true game mentality be it 1e, 2e, 3e, 4e, etc.). Sadly, I'd also suggest you might have better luck through personal connections than the internet.
 

Dykstrav - the progress is like a runaway train for me, I'm disusted with new wagons and passengers, but I'm still a passenger, but one day I won't go to the "Progress" station... as everyone someday will do.
 


Kaladhan said:
There are a few d20 companies/appeal that could appeal to you, but the easiest thing might be to start playing something totally different.
I agree that's worth a try. I grew dissatisfied with my 3E game, and tried out a bunch of systems. I ended up going with C&C, but I'm also running a classic D&D game (Holmes Basic + House Rules), and the whole "change of pace" revitalized my gaming.

Sounds like you need a change of pace and something to reignite your enthusiam. Might be a new system, a new group, or both.
 

Even the greatest adventurers sometimes need to take a break, put the sword on the mantle, and sharpen their edges.

Advice: just don't sell off all your equipment (books), you might want to use it again someday. I learned that the hard way.
 

I'll second one piece of advice, keep any fluff book/product you like at all. They are hard to get back. I've gone in and out of the hobby a lot over the last 30 years, but there are some books I've kept, and I'm always glad I did.
 

Dykstrav said:
Should I just give up the game for good? Or is there hope of finding players that want to make PHB characters and loot a dungeon every once in a while?


I'm perfectly happy to roll up a straight PHB character and loot a dungeon. Lots of players are ... the challenge is in finding them.
 

Olgar Shiverstone said:
I'm perfectly happy to roll up a straight PHB character and loot a dungeon. Lots of players are ... the challenge is in finding them.

Or make some! Of the guys in my current gaming group (6 including me) only 2 had grown up on DnD. The other 4 were guys I like to talk to at work who were up for giving the "DnD thing" a try and ended up really enjoying it. Most of us have wives kids at home but we do have one slightly older fellow and one "single and loving it" fellow. The older ones of us are probably more into the "role-playing" and other are into the "role-playing" but we find a middle ground that everyone enjoys.

I don't know of many people who started out playing DnD creating interesting 500 page backstories about our characters. Most of us rolled up a fighter and kicked down the door of a dungeon and started looting. As we grew older (and less excited by the snazzy new monster or loot book) we started to work on the shared story aspect of the game as a new facet to keep us hooked. Some in my group are still enjoying the "kick in the door" phase of the game, others have moved to the "Lemme come up with a wacky character nobody else has done" phase, and still others are in the "Wouldn't it be fun to have an adventure without fighting" phase.

I'd say spend some time looking for (or creating) a GOOD group and the fun will be back. If you do quit lemme know and I will email you my address so I can give your stuff a good home.

DS
 

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