Shapechange questions

[andargor]

I just want to make sure I understand Shapechange

Say a character with the following stats uses Shapechange:

• Wizard 5/Elemental Savant 10/Archmage 2
• LN alignment
• Stats: Str 10 Dex 10 Con 10 Int 24 Wis 10 Cha 10
• HP: 40
• Archmage abilities: Mastery of Elements, Mastery of Shaping

He changes into a Planetar (14 HD).

• Are his stats now: Str 25 Dex 19 Con 20 Int 24 Wis 10 Cha 10 ?
• Are his HP now: 125 ? (Corrected from 145)
• He gains: Damage reduction 10/evil, darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, immunity to acid, cold, and petrification, protective aura, regeneration 10, resistance to electricity 10 and fire 10, spell resistance 30, tongues. Correct?
• He gains fly 90 ft. (good) ?
• He does not gain spellcasting abilities of a cleric, better saves except due to stat changes, a +3 Greatsword, feats, better AC except due to Dex, better base attack bonus, SPAs ?
• He has the following effects always active: detect evil, detect snares and pits, discern lies (DC 20), see invisibility, and true seeing?
• Can he continue using his Archmage abilities when he casts spells ? They are not listed as Su.
• Does he retain his Elemental type (and traits)? It says he "gains" the Outsider type, but not that he loses the Elemental type.

Anything I'm missing?

Andargor

 

[nameless]

He does gain most of the things you're unsure of. Yes to fly speed, yes to the SA/SQs, yes to natural armor. No to the spell-like abilities and always active spell-like abilities, and no to the better hp.

Basically, the only things he doesn't gain are increased HP, feats that aren't racial bonus feats, base saves, and spell-like abilities. The only abilities he will potentially lose are the racial ones, nothing derived from class levels is lost.

 

[Saeviomagy]

I just want to make sure I understand Shapechange

Say a character with the following stats uses Shapechange:

• Wizard 5/Elemental Savant 10/Archmage 2
• LN alignment
• Stats: Str 10 Dex 10 Con 10 Int 24 Wis 10 Cha 10
• HP: 40
• Archmage abilities: Mastery of Elements, Mastery of Shaping

He changes into a Planetar (14 HD).

• Are his stats now: Str 25 Dex 19 Con 20 Int 24 Wis 10 Cha 10 ?

• 
  True
  

  [*]Are his HP now: 145 ?

  1. I've no idea where you got that number from - mind telling?
  2. It's debateable as to whether his hitpoints change at all - that's pretty much up to the DM to decide. If they don't, his hp are still 40. If they do, then they'll be adjusted for his new con score, and thus he'll have (40+17*5) = 125.
  

  [*]He gains: Damage reduction 10/evil, darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, immunity to acid, cold, and petrification, protective aura, regeneration 10, resistance to electricity 10 and fire 10, spell resistance 30, tongues. Correct?
  [*] He gains fly 90 ft. (good) ?
  [*]He does not gain spellcasting abilities of a cleric, better saves except due to stat changes, a +3 Greatsword, feats, better AC except due to Dex, better base attack bonus, SPAs ?

  Yup
  

  [*] He has the following effects always active: detect evil, detect snares and pits, discern lies (DC 20), see invisibility, and true seeing?

  Actually, no. They're listed under Spell like abilities.
  

  [*]Can he continue using his Archmage abilities when he casts spells ? They are not listed as Su.

  Not listed typically means Ex. Alter self says you keep them because they're gained through classes.
  

  [*]Does he retain his Elemental type (and traits)? It says he "gains" the Outsider type, but not that he loses the Elemental type.

Nope, he loses elemental type and traits - outsider replaces his elemental type. You can't have two types simultaenously.

 

[Otterscrubber]

True

1. I've no idea where you got that number from - mind telling?
2. It's debateable as to whether his hitpoints change at all - that's pretty much up to the DM to decide. If they don't, his hp are still 40. If they do, then they'll be adjusted for his new con score, and thus he'll have (40+17*5) = 125.

Yup

Actually, no. They're listed under Spell like abilities.

Not listed typically means Ex. Alter self says you keep them because they're gained through classes.

Nope, he loses elemental type and traits - outsider replaces his elemental type. You can't have two types simultaenously.

I beleive you do get the AC of the new form as well.

 

[Sammael]

The new form's base natural armor bonus replaces your own, but I don't think any other armor modifiers change (a planetar is perfectly capable of wearing the same equipment as the wizard, if its magical and thus resizes to wearer, so it doesn't meld with the new form).

 

[andargor]

1. I've no idea where you got that number from - mind telling?
2. It's debateable as to whether his hitpoints change at all - that's pretty much up to the DM to decide. If they don't, his hp are still 40. If they do, then they'll be adjusted for his new con score, and thus he'll have (40+17*5) = 125.

I blame the lateness of the hour for my chaotic calculation. Your number is correct (yes, I meant extra HP from Con).

Any rules on this? I seem to recall a FAQ entry or a Sage comment.

Nope, he loses elemental type and traits - outsider replaces his elemental type. You can't have two types simultaenously.

Seems you are correct, I can't find a monster with two types.

Andargor