Should this be fixed

[Raven Crowking]

If one player damages the fun of the group, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one.

DTMFA. From the game. If that person is your friend, do something else with him. Like bowling.

In any event, game long and prosper.


RC

 

[Elf Witch]

The DM has decided to talk to the player. She has been talking to everyone she does not want him to feel singled out.

This last issue has caused things to bubble to the surface. Right now she is an inch away of taking a break from DMing.

This is just her second time and her first time DMing 3.5 so she she has made some mistakes that have come back to bite her in the ass.

For example she allowed the player playing the warlock to take the feat double shot and fire two eldritch blasts around. At fourth level he was doing around 35 points of damage a round. The dwarf rogue was giving a tattoo that allows him to have mischance of being hit of 40% every time.

She also did something I tried to talk her out of which was make the characters a 42 point buy at creation.

I am ninth level and my wizard has a 24 intelligence because I build it with three levels of human paragon and I have a diadem of intelligence of plus 2.

She brought up the fact that she is having issues challenging us and asked for advice.

The warlock player says he is willing to change out the feat but deep down he is being pissy. He got hit with acid last game. The DM did not in game require him to make save rolls for his item. He pushed the issue and lost two items. So now he feels resentful. The DM did not ask him to give up the feat she was looking for ways to beef up the encounters not to take way items or things she had already allowed.


He feels my character should be nerfed as well. So I gave up the diadem but he also thinks my intelligence is still to high. I want to be fair but why should I have to rebuild my character at a lower stat point buy then everyone else? The human paragon classes gave me some nice things like a few extra hit points a plus 2 to a stat and the ability to use a sword. I also gave up a level of spell casting and three levels of wizard class for it. I may be a ninth level character but I am only a sixth level wizard.


What a mess. She wishes she had never said anything.

It is funny I think the issues with the dwarf player are going to turn out to be the easiest to fix he has said to her that he wants to fix and he is sorry if he caused issues in the game.

 

[falcarrion]

The DM has decided to talk to the player. She has been talking to everyone she does not want him to feel singled out.

This last issue has caused things to bubble to the surface. Right now she is an inch away of taking a break from DMing.

This is just her second time and her first time DMing 3.5 so she she has made some mistakes that have come back to bite her in the ass.

Tell her to hang in there. We need more creative Dm's such as her. Besides she has the the backing from most us here. she can come here and ask for help or advice anytime.

 

[Elf Witch]

Tell her to hang in there. We need more creative Dm's such as her. Besides she has the the backing from most us here. she can come here and ask for help or advice anytime.

I think she has the potential to be a great DM she is creative concerned about making the game fun for everyone. She just needs more experience under her belt.

To make things easier on her and to help smooth things over I am pulling my character out of the game and bringing a new one in.

My wizard is going to be called by her guild on an important mission and they are sending a sorcerer to take her place. I am going to build her at a lower point buy. It is not totally fair but I am used to playing where you roll and you often have a variety in stats. And hopefully it will show that she is not showing me favoritism and that we both want to make the game better for everyone.

 

[RedTonic]

Sounds like the drama in my high school gaming group. I'm so glad I'm past puberty now. But this is going on into... College? I'm just guessing--roommate thing n' all.

Recommend (kindly) to the DM that she set aside some time in the next session to address concerns about rebalancing the game. You shouldn't give up a character you enjoy playing because another player is overreacting about the DM's request for advice. I'm sure if the flippin'-out player can be plied with some pizza, beer, or xanax long enough for him to calm down, she can soothe him with the explanation that she really just wanted suggestions on how to scale the encounters better--or perhaps she actually wanted reassurance that you were all having fun plowing through battles. Nobody needs to give anything up in that situation. A sacrifice need not be burned.

On the other hand, I do think the dwarf's player needs to straighten up. Perhaps it's time for you and he to have a heart to heart about why he's sabotaging the game--and make no mistake, he is sabotaging the game. That action is what a number of other commenters in this thread have described. He's worried that you'll have badwrongfun and he's doing everything in his power to prevent you from having it. Besides taking schadenfreude, he's probably not really enjoying the game as well as he could be due to his own actions. Talk to him about why he's acting that way, and don't let him use "being in character" as an excuse. He controls his character; if he says differently, he needs to stop lying or seek therapy--perhaps both.

Meanwhile, consider the following: in character actions mean in character consequences. It sounds like your DM has done well on that score thus far--but your DM doesn't shoulder the entire weight of the game world. Eventually, your characters will learn that he did this. Or he will do something similarly heinous and he won't be able to hide it. This should have been nipped in the bud once he killed a LG being; now he's running amok.

Next thing you know, the dwarf will be knifing halfling kindergartners.

 

[RHGreen]

I know what I'd do if I was the party wizard.

Oops, scorching burst. Oops, scorching burst. Oops, scorching burst.

 

[Nightson]

This last issue has caused things to bubble to the surface. Right now she is an inch away of taking a break from DMing.

I was in a pretty similar situation, and I did the same thing, I took a break.

Taking a break meant no gaming for almost a year and I definitely regret it.

So, is there anybody else who is interested in DMing, if so let them run a short adventure.

If not, maybe try a quick adventure in a different system.

Both those can help recharge the GM batteries.

And then the hard part, sit down with the group, risk tearing it apart and creating hard feelings, and try to get the group working towards the fun of everybody in the group.

 

[Rel]

Sounds like the drama in my high school gaming group. I'm so glad I'm past puberty now. But this is going on into... College? I'm just guessing--roommate thing n' all.

LOL...you're a bit short of the mark there mate.

 

[RedTonic]

Oh! I see now.

Then the dwarf's player really is overdue for putting on his big boy panties...

 

[Elf Witch]

LOL...you're a bit short of the mark there mate.

LOL Rel you know me so well. No we are not in college most of us are in our 40s and 50s. Which proves even adults can be big babies now and then.

I have just spent three and half hours on the phone with the warlock's player. I finally got pissed and hung up on him. Basically he just wants to hang on a cross not fix anything.

The DM knew she had allowed to much power in the game but she did not ask anyone to give anything up instead she wanted to find away to continue playing at this level. Find away to balance challenges to our power level.

He has taken his character got rid of the extra stuff he had redid his stats at a 29 point buy and he decided to get rid of most of his magic items. He is now being a frakking martyr and going on how his character is now legal.

Since we are not playing in a RPGA living game a legal character is what the DM says it is.

He is also furious I won't admit to calling him the DMs pet last session. I have no clue what he is talking about. I have no memory of saying it or why I would say it. I will admit I said it years ago I think around 2006 when we were playing in another game and that DM made his character the "star" and the rest of us his minions.

A few weeks ago we were talking about the game and I told him that his character's background was my roommate's favorite because it was so creative. And that I thought it was awesome. It was a freaking compliment on its originality and creativity. Just because his background is her favorite has not meant anything in game. She has given him nothing special over the rest of us nor has she ignored goodies from our background. His background is every player at the table's favorite we have all said that. It has been a blast watching a demon and archon fight over his soul and wondering which way he is going to end up going. We have been taking side bets out of game over it.

But he has chosen to take what I said as an insult.

And now he is also upset over me and the cleric's player being upset with the dwarf over killing the necromancer. He is comparing it to the cleric killing two evil clerics of Hextra who were still alive after a battle. A battle deep in a dungeon miles and days from any kind of settlement. What were we supposed to do with them? Did I mention our cleric is a follower of Herineous and these clerics of Hextra had captured and tortured until they died fellow clerics of our cleric's order.

He would not admit that it was not the same thing. We killed evil clerics in cold blood the same way the dwarf killed a necromancer who was lawful good in his own house in the middle of Greyhawk. According to him both were evil acts and the cleric and I are hypocrites.

I have no clue what has set him off. I know he can sometimes be moody he has been through a lot in the past ten years. Hie wife died of brain cancer and before the end she didn't even remember him. It was horrible. I spent many a day sitting at the hospital with him. But it has been close to two years now.

His complaints and actions are kind of bizarre.