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For all the prequel haters- Have you watched the movies with 4-7 year olds? They love them just as we loved the orignals. Get off your fanboy high horse and get some perspective.

For all the Hayden haters- As far as I am concerned he nailed the whiny teenager who has problems with emotion and communication. I watched him and said, man he is just like my brother. Same age.

Revenge will rock.
 

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The prequels, in my opinion, lack an emotional spark that was present in the originals. Even if the originals had a little bit of overacting, that level of "ham" seemed appropriate for the space opera subject matter. The prequels, by contrast, (and in my opinion only of course) have had flat, emotionless acting except for one or two rare sparks of it (Ewan McGregor provides most of it). And you can't really blame the actors -- it's ultimately the director who gets to decide how much ham he wants.

I think what has many of us worried is that EpIII is charged with high expectations -- particularly the fact that it is going to presumably be the emotional climax of the entire prequel series, and arguably the most emotional moment of all six films. We've seen that it can be done -- but we've also seen some failures in this area. Thus, for me, the suspense is in "will Lucas deliver"?
 

JeffB said:
Trailer looked (and sounded) dam% good on the big screen. Not a big AotC fan here (prefer TPM , if only for Qui-Gon), but I have a feeling this one might just finally be the prequel we've all wanted (thats my hope anyways).
I'm clinging to that, probably vain, hope as well -- RotS should at least be the best of the prequels, if not necessarily in the same league as the original trilogy...
 

fett527 said:
For all the prequel haters- Have you watched the movies with 4-7 year olds? They love them just as we loved the orignals. Get off your fanboy high horse and get some perspective.
I have, yes. My kids are generally bored with Star Wars as well, unless I can get something new going into it, like the Clone Wars, or my new Star Wars RPG I ran for them.

Besides, despite Lucas' recent claim, there's very little (if anything) in the original trilogy that caters to kids.
fett527 said:
For all the Hayden haters- As far as I am concerned he nailed the whiny teenager who has problems with emotion and communication. I watched him and said, man he is just like my brother. Same age.
The problem was; should Darth Vader have been a whiny teenager? If a more manly, yet still young looking guy, had played the part in both trilogy movies, the whole thing would have been much more believable. At one point, apparently Ryan Phillippe was considered for the part; he would have vastly improved both movies.
fett527 said:
Revenge will rock.
I certainly hope so. Looks like Lucas is still directing, though. Don't know if he finally got some help on his screenplay/dialogue or not, though. I think the stories of the first two prequels is fine, it's just the execution of them that's lacking somewhat.

Despite that, I'm no Lucas, Christianson or prequel basher; it's just disappointing that they could have been much better movies with just a little more work on the screenplay, dialogue and pacing.
 

Re: Wookies vs. Ewoks...

In the initial early draft, the final battle (that evolved into the Battle of Endor) was supposed to be rebels + wookies vs. imperials. Wookies would be as primitive as the ewoks, and you can see where adding a planet full of 8-foot tall berserkers would tip the battle in favor of the rebels.

But Lucas liked the design for the wookies so much that he changed Chewbacca (initially a reptilian-like helper of the Han/Obi-Wan hybrid) into a wookie, and the character's knack for practical technology became archetypical of the wookies.

When it was time for RotJ, Lucas cut the wookies' size in half and inversed the syllables, so that "woo-kee" became "ee-wok".
 

EricNoah said:
The prequels, in my opinion, lack an emotional spark that was present in the originals. Even if the originals had a little bit of overacting, that level of "ham" seemed appropriate for the space opera subject matter. The prequels, by contrast, (and in my opinion only of course) have had flat, emotionless acting except for one or two rare sparks of it (Ewan McGregor provides most of it). And you can't really blame the actors -- it's ultimately the director who gets to decide how much ham he wants.
The thing I have not liked about the prequels thus far is that they are super-hero movies done up in Star Wars garb. The beauty of the originals is that you have absolutely no idea whether the characters are going to survive from one moment to the next, because they're essentially normal people in extraordinary circumstances. In the prequels, it's obvious that the characters will survive, since they can jump out of moving aircars and land on other moving aircars and various other silliness. However, I've really enjoyed the Dark Horse comics covering the prequel era. These are packed with emotional wallops and great stories.

That being said, my kids love the prequels as much as I loved the original series. I have a 3-year old that might need professional counseling when the last movie comes out. He asks me _every friggin' day_ whether the new Star Wars movie is out, yet.
 

ragboy said:
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I have a 3-year old that might need professional counseling when the last movie comes out. He asks me _every friggin' day_ whether the new Star Wars movie is out, yet.

LOL ... I bet you'll be joining him on the couch, and the poor therapist will have to listen to you debate a 3-4yr old about which movies were better and why. :)

... not that it's a bad thing mind you, just a funny picture.
 

fett527 said:
For all the prequel haters- Have you watched the movies with 4-7 year olds? They love them just as we loved the orignals. Get off your fanboy high horse and get some perspective.

I agree. I haven't seen the original trilogy. Ever. I first saw it about a month ago on dvd. I must say, although it is better than the prequels, there isn't much difference. The only difference comes from different directors for V and VI, as well as screenwriters. So, the prequels aren't horrible in their own right, but

fett527 said:
For all the Hayden haters- As far as I am concerned he nailed the whiny teenager who has problems with emotion and communication. I watched him and said, man he is just like my brother. Same age.

Me being an 18-year-old, I can say that this is true. I don't know many teenagers that don't whine whenever they show emotion.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
I have, yes. My kids are generally bored with Star Wars as well, unless I can get something new going into it, like the Clone Wars, or my new Star Wars RPG I ran for them.

From my experience that is unusual. My nephews (ages 5 and 7 now) and their cousins eat Star Wars up. All the movies. They love the prequels and they love Jar Jar. I was still amazed at how many kids were in Star Wars costumes in our neighborhood for Halloween. I loved it!

Joshua Dyal said:
Besides, despite Lucas' recent claim, there's very little (if anything) in the original trilogy that caters to kids.

R2-D2 and C3PO. They defintiely attracted and amused children. I use my nephews as examples for this as well. They are great comic relief.

Joshua Dyal said:
The problem was; should Darth Vader have been a whiny teenager? If a more manly, yet still young looking guy, had played the part in both trilogy movies, the whole thing would have been much more believable. At one point, apparently Ryan Phillippe was considered for the part; he would have vastly improved both movies.]/quote]

Why not? I think it lends more to his susceptibility to the darkside because of his immaturity. It works in my opinion. Ryan Phillippe would have brought his own flair to the roll and maybe that would have worked better. I do think Phillipe is a better actor.

Joshua Dyal said:
I certainly hope so. Looks like Lucas is still directing, though. Don't know if he finally got some help on his screenplay/dialogue or not, though. I think the stories of the first two prequels is fine, it's just the execution of them that's lacking somewhat.

I won't dispute the execution seemed lacking.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
Besides, despite Lucas' recent claim, there's very little (if anything) in the original trilogy that caters to kids.

I wouldn't go quite that far, but the genius of the original films is that they appealed to adults as well as children. The new films don't, and that is the difference.

I humbly apoligize that I don't have the same discriminating tastes as the average 4-7 year old.
 

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