Skill Mastery

[Trainz]

Allow me to open up this can of worms:

The Rogue ability Skill Mastery allows to take 10 under any condition for a few pre-selected skills (player's choice).

What about Use Magic Device ?

You cannot take 10 with UMD, thus is it possible to take Skill Mastery: UMD and take 10 anyways ?

 

[James McMurray]

Skill Mastery does not override a skill's "can't take ten" clause, it only expands the times in which you can take ten.

 

[AuraSeer]

You cannot take 10 with UMD, thus is it possible to take Skill Mastery: UMD and take 10 anyways ?

Nope.
Skill Mastery just means that stress and distraction can't prevent you from taking 10. With Use Magic Device, the problem isn't stress, it's the innate unpredictibility of magic. Removing the stress factor doesn't suddenly let you do something impossible.

Skill Mastery: UMD is rather similar to Spell Mastery: Read Magic. A character could theoretically take it, but it would be totally pointless.

 

[shilsen]

What James McMurray and AuraSeer said. Pretty small can of worms

 

[Trainz]

What James McMurray and AuraSeer said. Pretty small can of worms

So it would appear !

I miss the old big grin emoticon... it expressed it better. Oh well... where's the sad emoticon ? What ? No sad emoticon ?

DAMN !

Argh ! Is that supposed to express madness ? ? !

I guess I'm going to have to go somewhere else for my sad emoticon... let's see...

There ya go !

 

[James McMurray]

I miss How am I supposed to express my sarcastic nature to its fullest?

 

[Trainz]

I miss How am I supposed to express my sarcastic nature to its fullest?

Nice sad emoticon. Here, I'll trade you a rolleyes for it:

 

[Piratecat]

I hated Hated it. A few members would use it, and it would send my blood pressure soaring -- and I'm a pretty calm guy.

And I thought, "What's the point of being an admin if you can't make the kind of board you'd want to use yourself?"

So I deleted it.

 

[Trainz]

I hated Hated it. A few members would use it, and it would send my blood pressure soaring -- and I'm a pretty calm guy.

And I thought, "What's the point of being an admin if you can't make the kind of board you'd want to use yourself?"

So I deleted it.

I absolutely agree with you PC. Me too, I've seen it used sometimes in a condescending manner and it struck a nerve. Gimme back my original big grin and sad, and I'll shut up !

Oh, BTW, I was going through my attic, and I found an old picture of you at GenCon... thought you might want it...

Don't thank me, I live to serve.

 

[James McMurray]

Of course it was condescending. It was meant to be. Some people just need to be spoken down to.