Smallville or Dullsville

[Raindog]

I don't want to offend anyone, isn't funny it when ever someone starts a conversation like that it's bound to get somebody mad, but Smallville didn't take too long to get boring again. I'm not even going to get into the whole superman mythos getting messed up. The shows are just so formula with the villian of the week, Clark making puppy dog eyes at Lana, Pa Kent getting angry, Lionel Luther being evil and Lex as the tragic, doomed to follow in Dad's foot steps villian.
Last year the show ended in such turmoil, and it started with a bang, but by the 3rd show they have already reverted to the same old and tired format. Maybe they should go in a direction more like Buffy. An on going story line that actually has a climax with some new interesting characters introduced. Major supporting characters die, and it has an effect. I mean let Bo Luke die and return to Hazzard county. I have nothing against the actor or character but with so many near misses when he finally does croak nobody we'll care. I know TV shows are just suppose to entertain us, but wouldn't it be nice if the tried to be creative.
Raindog.

"I'm not afraid of dying. I just don't want to be there when it happens." W.Allen

 

[Ranger REG]

I dunno, I'm not tired of it yet. Then again, I'm used to formulaic shows. I watch a lot of Japanese TV series.

I mean the only way you could make it completely shocking to me is if Martha Kent is actually a spy for Lionel, which mean the real Martha is either missing or dead.

That or Clark Kent is gay.

 

[Zulithe]

Clark is definitely not gay (although Bruce Wayne probably has something going on in that area)

I got tired of Smallville too. The WB is horrible at translating its newly aquired DC Comics characters (well, somewhat new) to the small sceen (other than the animated shows which tend to be much better)

Why not do something daring with a bigger budget that would really please the comic fans as well as the mainstream audiences instead of catering to the teen girls (I swear those are the only people outside the internet I ever see talking about such shows)

Fox will have a live-action Star Wars show in another 18 to 24 months, The WB better pick up the slack in order to compete.

 

[Umbran]

Well, for one thing, I think Smallville is targetting a slightly younger and notably more mainstream audience than Buffy. For such an audience, formula has it's purpose.

And, for such an audience, using the formula right after turmoil can be darned useful. It allows the results of the turmoil to take time to develop. In the real world, the results of catastrophic events in people's lives are usually.. catastrophic. Nothing is the same ever again. But that isn't a good thing for a TV show. A TV show needs to keep an audience, and radical changes mid-stream tend to lose the fans you have. TV needs to take time to implement it's changes. Returning to the formula avoids teh meltdown in a way that most of the audience can forgive. It may not be plausible in the real world, but it is plausible in the fictional world because that's the way things always work in the fictional world.

 

[Ranger REG]

I got tired of Smallville too. The WB is horrible at translating its newly aquired DC Comics characters (well, somewhat new) to the small sceen (other than the animated shows which tend to be much better)

"Translating"??? You sound like a Purist.

Do you know how many origins of Superman we've been through? The Christopher Reeve movie version have Jonathan dead. The Dean Cain TV version have his parents alive and just a little bit more hip for their ages. The comic book version took them to be nearly-Amish farmers. But only a few ever detailed his childhood.

Or are you waiting for him to be swept up into the future to aid the Legion of Super-Heroes?

Why not do something daring with a bigger budget that would really please the comic fans as well as the mainstream audiences instead of catering to the teen girls (I swear those are the only people outside the internet I ever see talking about such shows)

Well, what do you want that would keep their audience as well as bring you back?

Fox will have a live-action Star Wars show in another 18 to 24 months, The WB better pick up the slack in order to compete.

*Scoffs*

Psshaw! Ever since X-Files have ended, FOX have never been able to retain their place for sci-fi shows. I mean for gawdness sake, they canceled FIREFLY!!! If George Lucas have any smart, even though his film is being distributed by 20th Century Fox, he should find a better TV network.

Otherwise ... look for When Rancor Attack! series.

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[Umbran]

But only a few ever detailed his childhood.

What, the gold and silver age Superboy comics don't count? The comic ran, I think, from 1949 through 1965! That's "a few"?

Why not do something daring with a bigger budget that would really please the comic fans as well as the mainstream audiences instead of catering to the teen girls

Have you considered how difficult it is to please both the hardcore comic fans and the mainstream at the same time? And the mainstream rarely responds to "daring". And you are asking them to risk even more money in the process? That's just not economically realistic.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I am starting to get tired of it, three shows this year and three times they show someone in a shower is a sign of jumping the shark, plus the girl-girl kiss in the last one. The mutant of the week and all things kyptonite is very old.

Lost is starting to hold my interest more than Smallville, finding I tune to it for longer periods of time, which means I may switch what I am taping.

 

[Umbran]

I am starting to get tired of it, three shows this year and three times they show someone in a shower is a sign of jumping the shark, plus the girl-girl kiss in the last one.

Has anyone noticed that, as high school seniors, it is only now that the characters are reaching the age of consent? Before this time, they really couldn't consider sex much on the show. So, now that they can, they do. Funny hting, that, when it seems their fan base are all teens with various cases of hormone poisoning

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Has anyone noticed that, as high school seniors, it is only now that the characters are reaching the age of consent? Before this time, they really couldn't consider sex much on the show. So, now that they can, they do. Funny hting, that, when it seems their fan base are all teens with various cases of hormone poisoning

Heh heh. Obviously, no one under the age of consent has ever had sex before .

I'm not sure that I'm as bored with Smallville as a lot of folks here, but I do find Lost to be a whole helluva lot more compelling, so I switched as of last week. It did seem like Smallville was finally starting to pay off on some of the plot elements they've been dangling for years (i.e. Lionel going to jail, Clark and Lex falling out, etc.), but it just can't hold a candle to Lost.

 

[RangerWickett]

Heh heh. Obviously, no one under the age of consent has ever had sex before.

Well, not in Japan they haven't.

Obviously Jor-El's an idjut, assuming he isn't some sort of Zod rip-off. I mean, dude is using a farmboy to take over the world? When he has Lex and Lionel Luthor just sitting there? Doesn't he read comics? Doesn't he know Superman is an who thinks with his fists, and that the person who will rule the world is going to, somehow, have a couple of L's for their initials?