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Sneak Atk. Vampires?

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In LM, the ghost strike wp. ability make it possible to sneak atk incorpreal creatures. Is there any books out there with something like that for vampires?
 

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Jdvn1

Hanging in there. Better than the alternative.
In Complete Adventurer, there's a spell that lets you sneak attack all undead. It's a 1st level Cleric spell and I think for Paladins too.

In Libris Mortis, there's a spell that gives undead vulnerabilities as if living. I think it's called 'Undeath to Life.'
 

Drowbane

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in the Mini's Handbook there is a prestige that lets you convert your sneak to holy dmg or something. Basicly it lets you "sneak" undead.
 

Joker

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Jdvn1 said:
In Complete Adventurer, there's a spell that lets you sneak attack all undead. It's a 1st level Cleric spell and I think for Paladins too.

In Libris Mortis, there's a spell that gives undead vulnerabilities as if living. I think it's called 'Undeath to Life.'
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It's Spark of Life. You're fired ;).


I don't think it's that unbalancing to make a weapon ability that allows you to crit and sneak attack corporeal undead only but having a +3 price modifier.
 


AZNtrogdor

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there two problems with the spell Grave Strike:

1. it only last one round

2. its a personal spell

I solved the second problem by taking a lvl of spellthief. you get an extra sneak attack, you get the ability to steal 1st and 0 lvl spells, and you can a +2 to will saves.
 

Jdvn1

Hanging in there. Better than the alternative.
Joker said:
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It's Spark of Life. You're fired ;).


I don't think it's that unbalancing to make a weapon ability that allows you to crit and sneak attack corporeal undead only but having a +3 price modifier.
:lol: Not owning the book, my sources of information are sometimes a little off. Hence, I can pass the blame to someone else. :p I'll try to remember that, though.
 

Jarrod

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Amusingly, the Minis HB ability goes well out of its way to say "as if you sneak attacked" or something like that; not "you sneak attack". You can read that to mean that it's xd6 damage, but _not_ a SA.

I'd go with a weapon enchantment. I find it amusing that +1 gets you Ghost Touch, and +2 gets you Ghost Touch + Sneak Attack; seems like that means Sneak Attack is +1.

Though at that price _every_ rogue would have one.

Or an item of at-will Grave Strike.. even a wand is cheap.
 


mzsylver

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AZNtrogdor said:
there two problems with the spell Grave Strike:

1. it only last one round

2. its a personal spell

Well... you can always put an extended version in a spellstoring item for your poor Rogues. Also, try Magic Jarring into them and Contingencying it.

Heh. I know this isnt helpful... But in the RPGA Living City campaign my rogue had a "Silver Dagger" that could sneak attack vampires: it detected shapechangers (it bleeds when you check someone if they are a shapechanger), was bane vs. shapechangers, turned into wood when fighting vampires, and let you perform coup-de-grace and critical hits (including sneak attack) vs. vampires. Pretty Slick.
 

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