So...How are Sales of 4E Product?

[Nikosandros]

I dunno, I think the rude and nasty started elsewhere in this thread.

I think it started with the whole fatal comparison, and got worse with the whole 'messiah' and 'better than sex' post.

The rude and nasty starts because, more often than not, this arguments are thinly disguised edition wars. The like/dislike of the game is (in the eyes of some) somehow validated by commercial success or lack thereof.

As I posted upthread, this is utter nonsense in my opinion. I am enjoying 4e, but not loving it. However, I have little reason to doubt that it is selling quite well indeed.

By contrast, one of my favorite games is AD&D, but I don't believe that the market for it is more than a small niche.

 

[Scott_Rouse]

Its time to stop when you guys start being mean to one another.

* No horses were harmed in the making of this post

 

[JoeGKushner]

Its time to stop when you guys start being mean to one another.

* No horses were harmed in the making of this post

Dang WoTC foreigners.

Don't know how wess be handling dings around here.

Sad when the Rouse has to be the voice of reason instead of the poor SOB being attacked.

 

[thecasualoblivion]

YouTube - Some Good 3.5 Deals

It's at the very end and I gotta say it isn't very clear what he said. I think he says that for 4e he already has preorders that exceed 3e for the last couple years.

I'm not sure, exactly, what he means, and it's from GenCon.

This is what I was referring to.

 

[tenkar]

For me to see it actually selling well in my area, especially so for books beyond the core PHB/DMG/MM. At least in my area, it hasn't made a gigantic splash from when I've talked about it with a friend of mine who works at the game store I frequent, though it has managed to royally alienate just about every FR fan he and I know.

We can compare anecdotes all day long about our own demographic bubbles and if 4e is or isn't doing well therein, but without hard sales figures for various books we can't draw solid conclusions at this stage.

Well, the Amazon ranking can be equated to an indicator of successful sales. It is far from a prefect indicator but certainly has much more weight and relevance to this discussion then personal anecdotes.

In any case, you live in Sigil... 4e Planescape will probably sell by you, less so the Forgotten Realms

 

[Erik Mona]

It's kinda funny (or sad, rather)

When Mona comes and says that Pathfinder is doing awesome and that Paizo hasn't stopped gaining more customers and selling since the announcement of the PFRPG, not a single soul questions his motives, nor his veracity. It's a fact.

Dude, I think you post about me more online than I post about myself.

Maybe you should look into that?

--Erik

PS: Pathfinder is still selling well.

 

[Erik Mona]

Now, just to be clear, I do not believe Mona lies or anything

Phew!

--Erik Mona

 

[thecasualoblivion]

Dude, I think you post about me more online than I post about myself.

Maybe you should look into that?

--Erik

PS: Pathfinder is still selling well.

Well... the nature of Pathfinder itself puts you and Paizo in the center of the edition war, which I don't believe was intended, but here we are.

 

[Imaro]

You know, I am curious about FR (I'm not a fan of FR, so really kinda neutral). What I do wonder is ... did the two book decision sell better than the FRCG for 3e? I also wonder what the ratio was as far as FRPG to FRCG for 4e.

 

[Cadfan]

While I think that those who predict doom and gloom, or who insist that actual sales data is nullified by the anecdotal experience of their four friends, are execrable rumor mongers and trolls, concern or otherwise- I also think that 4e has an advantage over 3e in obtaining sales because 4e is following 3e, and is drawing upon 3e's large, solid fan base. 3e followed 2e, at a time when D&D was doing... not so well. So, if I had solid data, I'd expect to see that 4e's initial sales run beating 3e's initial sales run quite handily. But I'd also expect to see 3e attaining greater rates of growth across its lifespan than 4e is likely to attain.