so, there's this level 45 evil mage...

[Pergentile]

"level 45 mage" as in an NPC with 20 levels of the Wizard class and 25 levels of the Epic Wizard class?
Luck+Manhandling (Grappling)

 

[Dandu]

Doesn't lava flow more like ooze than like water?

 

[kitcik]

To re-word what I said before, you have two advantages - use them:
1) Potential surprise.
2) The 45 level mage is only as smart as the DM, who has to react to whatever the whole group can think of together. Think of something good.

 

[Dandu]

To re-word what I said before, you have two advantages - use them:
1) Potential surprise.

Make sure to have Mind Blank up beforehand so you aren't the subject of Divination spells. Hopefully it covers Contact Other Plane and spells like that, which are one of the main ways mages keep from being surprised. That and the Foresight spell.

 

[Thatguy27]

2) The 45 level mage is only as smart as the DM, who has to react to whatever the whole group can think of together. Think of something good.

actually, this is why we are worried about the mage in the first place. the GM is relativly new, so one of our members in RL are helping to teach him how to play a mage of this level, and he is extremely experienced. ie, death in 1 round if unprepared.

AMF's were one of our main strategies though. we thought of fate binding a bunch of marbles, then throwing them into his room and casting AMF on one of them. he can get rid of a few AMF's, but not all of them.

 

[Dandu]

Is Fate Binding a spell that allows you to cast Range: Personal spells on something else?

 

[Greenfield]

Why would dimensional locks stop polymorph? Just asking.

And be aware that "dimensionally locked" can mean Forbidence. This spell has all the good points of Dimensional Lock and none of the bad ones. The caster (and those with the password) can pass through easily, and can Teleport or Gate if they like, but nobody else can. Plus it does damage to people who aren't of your alignment.

What's his actual DR like? A Stirge Swarm can bring down a god if it can punch his DR. Con drain by the bucket load. Summon outside the tower, then send it in after him. It's industrial strength ugly, but it works.

 

[Thatguy27]

i doubt the dimension lock is actually Forbidence, or else someone in our party would be taking constant damage. the swarm idea sounds good, but dimension lock stops the summoning, and the mage just needs one good AoE spell to destroy all of them due to their low health.

i did find out that we have access to an avatar of Palor, so we're thinking of using him to connect to Palor himself for help. might work, might not, but so far it's our best shot.

 

[Dandu]

Don't think Dimension Lock will prevent someone from teleporting out. It's an emanation centered on a point in space, which means all you have to do is cut off line of effect (with, say, a Resilient Sphere centered on the caster) in order to GTFO.

Of course, whether the DM will know to do this is a valid question.

 

[akbearfoot]

The only way I can think of to beat a spell caster 20 levels higher than your party is Disjunction.

Even if you could kill him, you don't seriously think he is in his own body do you? Or that he doesnt have like 30 different clones set up all across the world with copies of his spellbooks. Or an epic contingency that teleports his body and all his stuff to his 45th level cleric buddy if he actually loses a fight?

At that rediculously high of a level....He could just cast an intensified time stop, and gate in like 20 epic level outsiders, have a tea party with them, and still have time to lay down 5 intensified delayed blast fireballs to nuke you when the TS ends.

It would be like if you just dropped the first 20 levels....Pretend you are first level, and hes a 20th level wizard, with unlimited resources.