D&D 5E So, this is it.

[PinkRose]

I'm pretty confident that Second Wind and Action Surge are class abilities that all Fighters get.

I also think that most people that read these forums are not looking for the BASIC fighter. We want more meat on our bones. That where the PH comes in. This is the BASIC fighter, as BASIC as it gets. No class is more BASIC than the BASIC fighter. Literally anything else will be more complex because all you've seen is the BASIC fighter.

Complain and ragequit if you want, but I would wait to see all the builds of fighters.
They look good to me.

 

[VengerSatanis]

I'm pretty confident that Second Wind and Action Surge are class abilities that all Fighters get.

I also think that most people that read these forums are not looking for the BASIC fighter. We want more meat on our bones. That where the PH comes in. This is the BASIC fighter, as BASIC as it gets. No class is more BASIC than the BASIC fighter. Literally anything else will be more complex because all you've seen is the BASIC fighter.

Complain and ragequit if you want, but I would wait to see all the builds of fighters.
They look good to me.

"Ragequit" is a new one for me. Nice.

I think it all comes down to less than ideal communication between Mearls and the gaming community. Basic online and starter set vs advanced PHB and DMG. A lot of people assumed the starter set and its pre-gens were going to be even more basic than what we got. I know I did. That's the trouble with cryptic teasers and out-of-context excerpts and spoilers.

When the entire 5th edition is unleashed, I think the majority of ragequitters will go back to being "curious" and "possibly interested in playing a session or two".

VS