Some interesting news about 4th edition


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TheAuldGrump said:
Psssst... White Wolf tried collectible cards for the magic system in the first edition of Changeling: the Dreaming... it sank like a rock.

That was Changeling, though, not D&D. You're comparing one of White Wolf's worst selling games, to the RPG that basically defines the industry. I'm not saying that collectibility would work, or is even a remotely good idea, but you're comparing apples and asparagus.
 

Turjan said:
  • "Feat cards?" Good idea. This means that players (and the DM) won't forget that they have those.
  • "Spell Cards?" I still think that Paradigm Concepts' Spell Decks were an excellent idea. It's a pity that the timing of the release (directly before the release of 3.5e) was so bad, otherwise they would be much more popular nowadays.
  • "Power Boost Cards"? I know that many people use tokens to represent temporary buffs. A card for helping with remembering those wouldn't be bad, either. With a fat number in a corner.

Now, this I like.
 

I do forget that sometimes, your ears are near the walls of WOtc... ;)

So, with this said...it is hightime to finish this chapter. I should be surprised, but not surprised, at the responses.

CowPie Zombie...you shall be remembered fondly, for the high flying antics, maybe innocent on your part. But mercy...sometimes you do need to check your sources before hitting the vine with such stuff. If you are viewing this thread...see the bitter and sweet vocals of your input. :) And learn from this...for the next time.

Peace.

Update: Found some history on Cowpie

Spoony Bard said:
The spirit of MtG can be adapted to the D&D ruleset, and I personally think the many planes of Dominiria would make a much more interesting (albeit EXTREMELY OVER-THE-TOP HIGH MAGIC) world than Eberron, or even the Realms for that matter (which I've become bored with). I'd kill for a chance to do that as a stand alone product for WotC.

Truth be known however, the CCG R&D division and the TCG R&D division are kept on opposite sides of the WotC offices for a very good reason folks - most of them do NOT get along (I've heard this multiple times directly from members of both teams). A MtG crossover to D&D has been tried -- TWICE, but fell apart in hopeless bickering between the two sides each time and was pulled before a single page was written -- Well, a few pages have been written according to a source I will not reveal, but they are not being developed for publication, instead they're sitting in some filing cabinet collecting dust in the offices (though no doubt the move shook it off).

Outside of the offices, WotC is painfully aware that the majority of the CCG and RPG communities do NOT get along. Ryan Dancey made this very clear at GC 2000 at the debut of 3e - I asked him during a public seminar on the newborn 3e if there would ever be a crossover. He took a show of hands of all opposed and I swear nearly everyone in the room rose their hand. He then said he could probably go up to the CCG room and get the same response to the same question. Now, it's been 5 years since then, but I doubt attitudes have changed much.

If I could figure out a way to develop this myself without being sued I would, but I can't without changing things so much they are unrecognizable. Wizards isn't going to take a gamble with the potential to damage the profitability of not one but TWO of their biggest lines either.

So folks, in closing, take any rumor like this not with a grain of salt, but with a semi-truck load of salt.
 
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What size you have? And can it fit into my pocket?

Jürgen Hubert said:
To anyone who apparently takes this seriously:

If you take anything claimed by random people on the internet, then I have a bridge to sell to you...
 


TheAuldGrump said:
Okay folks, let's fold this tent - the original poster dropped it after his first post, let us do the same.

The Auld Grump

Perhaps we might reincarnate it with a question:

Would D&D sell, and be the market leader, regardless of what the system was beneath the brand name?
 


Reynard said:
Perhaps we might reincarnate it with a question:

Would D&D sell, and be the market leader, regardless of what the system was beneath the brand name?

Perhaps you could start a new thread to rehash that concept, instead? (or if you prefer, I can do a search and give you links to existing threads with that same topic). ;)
 
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Reynard said:
Would D&D sell, and be the market leader, regardless of what the system was beneath the brand name?

Nope. AD&D 2nd ed. was losing money. If they had "stayed the course" back then, inevitably they would have gone out of business. From that we can infer that if some other company using a system that was totally awful revamped D&D, it could well tank. Brand names help, but they are not everything.
 

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