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Song of Ice and Fire Question...

Celtavian

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I have developed a rather pathological hatred of the Jaime and Cersei Lannister, their Hound, and Prince Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister, he doesn't deserve his father's name). I want to see all these people die. If Joffrey learns some respect, then I might forgive the spoiled brat.

I was hoping that someone who has already read the book can tell me if Jamie and Cersei, the Hound and Prince Joffrey receive their just deserves? I don't need details. I don't want in-depth spoilers. I just want to know that they pay, preferably with their lives in a gruesome manner.

I'm at the point right now where I wish I could jump into the story and kill them myself. I feel a deep sense of loathing for the above characters, and Martin has written them in such a way that they seem worse than a foul monster.
 
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Celtavian said:
I have developed a rather pathological hatred of the Jaime and Cersei Lannister, their Hound, and Prince Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister, he doesn't deserve his father's name). I want to see all these people die. If Joffrey learns some respect, then I might forgive the spoiled brat.

I was hoping that someone who has already read the book can tell me if Jamie and Cersei, the Hound and Prince Joffrey receive their just deserves? I don't need details. I don't want in-depth spoilers. I just want to know that they pay, preferably with their lives in a gruesome manner.

I'm at the point right now where I wish I could jump into the story and kill them myself. I feel a deep sense of loathing for the above characters, and Martin has written them in such a way that they seem worse than a foul monster.

Well... One of them does, and one suffers something fairly drastic, but that's it so far - and Martin continues to add depth to the characters, so things aren't likely to end as simply as you'd prefer.
 

This will tell you specifically which character gets "something fairly drastic" and which actually dies:

Joffrey, the little bastard, chokes to death on food. Jaime gets his sword hand chopped off...and he doesn't have a level of Ranger, so Ambidexterity isn't his bag. He's useless as a warrior afterwards. Cersei has yet to be horribly tortured to death, but hopefully it won't be long.
 

If you are still finishing what has been published of this series, save some of that hatred. You're going to need it for a certain family after a traumatic event in the third book.
 

trust me you need to make plenty of room in your heart for hate by the time all is said and done with what has been written so far. One of the people mentioned in your list becomes one of my favorite characters in the story by the end of book 3 and another one of them get one of the more famous ends in the story so far. But rest assured there will be so many more people to hate before it is said and done.
 

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Thanks for the information. Now I can read knowing that at least a few of those bastards I mentioned will get what they have coming.

More villainous bastards to hate? Ok, I can live with that.
 
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Leave the Hound alone! He's the best character in the series. He's done nothing that's wrong, though sadly I suspect he will die before the series is out.

nikolai.
 

Celtavian said:
I have developed a rather pathological hatred of the Jaime and Cersei Lannister, their Hound, and Prince Joffrey Baratheon (Lannister, he doesn't deserve his father's name). I want to see all these people die. If Joffrey learns some respect, then I might forgive the spoiled brat.

I was hoping that someone who has already read the book can tell me if Jamie and Cersei, the Hound and Prince Joffrey receive their just deserves? I don't need details. I don't want in-depth spoilers. I just want to know that they pay, preferably with their lives in a gruesome manner.

I'm at the point right now where I wish I could jump into the story and kill them myself. I feel a deep sense of loathing for the above characters, and Martin has written them in such a way that they seem worse than a foul monster.

Get used to it. I read about half of the first book and I felt that way about every character in the book but two. This is how Martin writes a "sophisticated" book. He creates a world where I don't give a crap about anyone in it.

That is what I get for reading a book based on the suggestions of a literature major.
 

nikolai said:
Leave the Hound alone! He's the best character in the series. He's done nothing that's wrong, though sadly I suspect he will die before the series is out.

nikolai.


Really? I seem to remember the Hound being involved in the death of a young farmboy who did nothing wrong in the first half of the first book. I could be remembering wrong though.
 

As far as the Hound knew the farmboy has attacked a Royal Prince, so what he did was perfectly legitimate. This isn't the case, but that's not the Hound's fault, the blame lies with Sansa, Ned, Joffrey, Cersei etc.

Get used to it. I read about half of the first book and I felt that way about every character in the book but two. This is how Martin writes a "sophisticated" book. He creates a world where I don't give a crap about anyone in it.

You seem very upset about it. I think a lot of people have this response, they like Martin's writing and world, but dislike the ambiguity of some of the characters. There are plenty of sympathetic characters in the books, though in some instances the sympathetic side is buried very deep. I don't know how much more you've read, but there are characters who get the chance to do the right thing later on.
 

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