Song of Ice and Fire Question...

[JacktheRabbit]

I second that last post!

You have not read the books. The idea that you could even try to make an educated post of a book you have barely read is silly, and states that you were just trying to make a problem!

Thus from this point I will be ignoring your trollish posts on this thread, and suggest that everyone else does the same thing so we can continue to have a nice discussion.

Back to that again. If someone does not agree with you then they MUST be a troll.

Well......

Here is your lemon.

 

[ssampier]

Jon is an annoying character non the less. I hope that some where down the road he can change his DUTY complex.
I reallly like Ayra, she is not good, but is not truely evil either. I love the dialog between her and the hound. The hound is not a good person, he is, by most accounts evil. I still like him a great deal, and may even call him "cool"!
Dany is boring. I have not gotten much of anything from her dialoge so far, but I will hang in there!! A few turns I love, they killed Jofferey, Jamie became a cool character, Daddy Lanister is dead(way to go Tyrion!)

There is such a mystery to the plot of what is really going on. How are some things happening...? That is really what keeps me reading! I need to know how Catelyn is still "alive"? What in the heck is going on with Bran? What will happen to Arya now, and who was the guy who killed the three men for her? When will Dany and her Dragons finally get to Westros?

I just can not wait for the next books!!!!

I can't wait for the new books either. Frankly I'm waiting for the "giant" of Lannister to show his stuff. That comment by Shae given to Tyrion is foreshadowing great things to come.

Spoiler

Tyrion is on the run for adegely killing Joffrey and killing his father.

What greatness, I'm not positive. I think it would be neat for Tyrion to become king or at least the lord of Casterly Rock.

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Jaime's "new found" honor and duty is perplexing. Granted he did lose his hand; the only thing he was "good" at, so to speak.

Jon is interesting. He has the "miniature Ned" syndrome, which hopefully won't harm him--*cough*

Spoiler

kill him like Ned

*cough*.

As for the other brothers, Rickon I never particularly liked, mostly due to his age. Hopefully if he is included, he would have matured more. Bran I like,

Spoiler

but the wolf connection is a little creepy. I'm assuming it's a psychic connection to his wolf. I wonder why the other brothers haven't discovered this ability.

 

[ASH]

Fine Your not a troll.
Your just a dude bashing about a book that you have barely read in a thread that is not focused on bashing that book. Thanks for your opinion. My opinion is that your wrong.

Now, [QUOTE From ash] from this point I will be ignoring your trollish posts on this thread, and suggest that everyone else does the same thing so we can continue to have a nice discussion.[/QUOTE]

Anyway, I am really looking forward to the next book. Does anyone know what the baisc plot developments will be?

 

[Pants]

LOL, thats it?

Yep, pretty much.

I have never been in space yet I can debate the lunar landings and our attempts to explore the Solar system.

Sure you can, but I'm going to take the opinions of an actual astronaut over those of someone on the internet.
Say aSoIaF sucks all you want, but your opinions are, IMO, worth less than a grain of salt and I'm going to listen to somebody who has actually read what they are bashing.

I have never been in a NASCAR racecar but I can tell you they are dangerous.

So, who would you listen to more, a fan on the sidelines or the NASCAR driver? The fan on the sidelines might be able to say 'That's dangerous,' however the driver would go into greater depth of WHY it is, HOW it is, and other information that the fan is not privy to.

I have never studied Islam yet I can tell you that militant followers of the religion are perverting the true meaning of the religion and quite dangerous.

Yes, but what can you tell me about the religious beliefs, and practices of Islam. How about the history? You're giving me a basic opinion of a very basic situation. Now, let's say that you get into a debate with an Islamic person who grew up in the Middle East and has read the Quran. He will know more about the situation than you probably would, because he has experienced it firsthand and he knows the tenents of the faith, whereas all you know is what you get from the news.

Shall I go on? Or are you just going to clip out one word from ym replies and try to make snide smarta$$ comments because you know my point was much more valid than yours?

Go on all you want. You're point is no more valid than anyone elses and arrogance will get you nowhere 'friend.'

 

[Pants]

Anyway, I am really looking forward to the next book. Does anyone know what the baisc plot developments will be?

Some characters will be going through a 'learning stage' or, as Martin puts it, 'training.' Those characters will get less actual stage time in the book. The book is also supposed to take place over 5 years of time, or so I last heard.

 

[ASH]

One book over 5years..That sounds great. I am really anxious to see what some of thease characters will be like when they come back, Arya Specifically.

 

[KnowTheToe]

The problem I have with this series and with the growing trend of mega series is the amount of time it takes for them to get written. I bought the first book after the second book was written. I assumed it would be a trilogy, boy was I wrong. With 2-3 years inbetween books, we could wait nine years for the ending. I can't imagine caring about this for nine more years.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Fine Your not a troll.
Your just a dude bashing about a book that you have barely read in a thread that is not focused on bashing that book. Thanks for your opinion. My opinion is that your wrong.

Now, [QUOTE From ash] from this point I will be ignoring your trollish posts on this thread, and suggest that everyone else does the same thing so we can continue to have a nice discussion.

Anyway, I am really looking forward to the next book. Does anyone know what the baisc plot developments will be?[/QUOTE]

Obviously you cannot wrap your brain around the specific topic that this thread was created about. This thread was not started for you fanboys to masturbate philosphical about Martin. It was about a very specific question about character types and writing style.

Basically the person who started this thread asked if everyone he thinks should be punished will get punished and if there were going to be any characters in the reader could truly like. I answered that question infinately better than you wanking fanboys who arrived and started TROLLING with your insults aimed at anyone who didnt like the book.

Here is your lemon.

 

[Celtavian]

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Damn Doc Moriartty,

You sound like you've been sucking more lemons than anyone else.

Thanks for interjecting your opinion, but a man who has read half the first book doesn't seem able to make a definitive statement about what happens to characters later in the book. You don't like Martin, and I have to say that definitely sours me to any of your opinions.

Personally, I completely understand loving certain literature. I love Lord of the Rings and enjoy discussing it at any opportunity. I can understand fans of A Song of Ice and Fire wanting to discuss a series they enjoy.

 

[Squire James]

My take on reading the 3 "Ice and Fire" books so far:

1. Good guys get killed. They may be killed immediately, or Martin may decide to stretch it out for a book or two. There appear to be a couple of exceptions, but my guess is that Martin has something grisly in mind for his next "Surprise! I'm killing off a main character!" book.

2. Bad guys sometimes get killed (normally by a Worse guy), but they usually get away with what they do with little consequence. Unless, of course, they become Good guys, in which case see #1.

3. Like Jordan, Martin really wants this series to be as long as possible. He needs to constantly bring in new characters in his stories to replace the people he kills off. If he were still working only with characters introduced in the first book, Book 4 would be about 5-6 guys standing around in separate graveyards with nothing to say. Actually, he hasn't done the "Jordan crime" yet, but Martin has yet to show signs that he won't.

4. Littlefinger is a fink.