D&D 4E "Sorry, that's only in 4E..."

[Razz]

So I am reading up on the Death Knight ecology and realized,"Wow...they really do want to change the game so much that no one from this and past generations will ever relate to the new gamers of next generation."

Talk about splitting your fan base.

This new death knight (amongst a million other rules, mechanics, and flavor in 4E) is so different than its original, it is only a death knight in name and not tradition...

Is this what you 4E lovers really want? I can imagine someone trying an older edition game with some true, real lovers of the game and veterans in, say, a 3.5E game and going "Hey that does---" or "That did---" and someone replying,"Sorry, totally different. That's only in 4E pal. Get with the program

Now turn it the other way around,"Ok, I'm here to try 4E." and everything you once knew in 1E through 3E is being retorted by the World of Warcraft crowd playing 4E (if they manage to get into D&D and stay in it long enough, despite WotC's hopes for 9 million+ customers with D&D) telling you,"No, dude, what the hell are you talking about? You're way off."

Then you tell them,"Well it was like this in past editions."

"Well this ISN'T X Edition. I heard the rules were crap and horrible."

Seriously...9-eyed beholders, non-lawful good paladins, no energy draining undead, 25th-level spells, death knights don't have both melee power and disposable powerful Abyssal magic (which, I'm sorry, are way cooler than sword-phylactery lich wanna-bes), the entire cosmology getting warped (yet, again) and ruining the consistency in EVERYONE'S games.

You guys think this is all a GOOD thing? Seriously?

I'd love to be on whatever you guys are on that has you so hyped for 4E.

 

[DaveMage]

Razz, why do you keep torturing yourself by reading the 4E stuff?

Ignore it!

 

[DandD]

Nah, Razz likes 4th edition. Why else would he read and talk about it on a 4th-edition-dedicated subforum? He is certainly going to change to 4th edition too, like the majority. Else, it really would be foolish and unhealthy to concern yourself all too much with something that you really don't like at all...

 

[Rechan]

I didn't know that the Death Knight had such an extensive and 2e specific history. I just thought it was "Undead paladin" or something like that.

What's next? "The Spawn of Kyuss aren't left handed! THIS ISN'T D&D!"

 

[Merlin the Tuna]

What's next? "The Spawn of Kyuss aren't left handed! THIS ISN'T D&D!"

No, see, that card got played when Zelda: Twilight Princess turned Link into a right-hander on one of the consoles. And we wouldn't want to have a vague connection to video games!

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I didn't know that the Death Knight had such an extensive and 2e specific history. I just thought it was "Undead paladin" or something like that.

What's next? "The Spawn of Kyuss aren't left handed! THIS ISN'T D&D!"

Apparently anything that was done with a monster in 2E, even if said monster predates 2E, locks that interpretation in forever.

That said, I expect people to freak out if someone uses Kyuss or his spawn in a way that contradicts Age of Worms, even if that wasn't released by WotC.

 

[Nifft]

No, we had trolls in all editions.

What? -- N

 

[Rechan]

Apparently anything that was done with a monster in 2E, even if said monster predates 2E, locks that interpretation in forever.

As someone who was introduced to Fantasy via FR novels at around 1998, I feel at a real loss during all these D&D history arguments.

 

[Vigilance]

Razz, why do you keep torturing yourself by reading the 4E stuff?

Ignore it!

If he ignored it, he couldn't run around wailing and gnashing his teeth.

You're obviously missing what's in it for him.

 

[Arashi Ravenblade]

For the sake of story I would personally like All things to stay the same. If a Death Knight did or was X in past editions it should be the same in a new edition or more.
I dont want to have to re-explain things to players who knew it a certain way for several years.
Which is one of the reasons I take such a huge issue with the planes. My players barely understand it now. So im gonna have to brief them cause WOTC wants change for the sake of change.