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Higher BAB than fighter, better saves than fighter, better number of feats than fighter, some extra cool abilities that fighters don't get.

Not balanced with fighter.

I didn't "catch the vision" for this class, but I can't see anyone letting it into a game with standard PHB classes.
 

Anabstercorian said:
This class is an unceasing stream of garbage.
hey, no need to get downright rude. Yeesh. There;s a little something called constructive critizism (sp?) that your should try sometime.
 


Anabstercorian said:
I apologize for nothing!
Was I asking for an apology? No. I was asking you to submit actual critizism, not flames. Perhaps in the future (since you are still obviously having problems with the concept) you'll try it sometime ;)
 



AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! IT BURNS!!! IT BURNS!!!

j/k. Just a bit over powered.


Anyone read OGL Ancients? Defense system aside, it may be what your looking for. Two types of fighters: The Noble Warrior (a fighter who can call upon other warriors, based on rank) and the Warrior. They gain d12, good fort and will saves, and a reduced feat progression, many of which have to be phalanx feats (these only work in groups of three or more, provided they all have the feat).
 

Ummmmm... is there really a need for a PC class based on a phalanx formation??? an NPC class to use instead of warriors for particularily professional armies would make more sense for this kind of build. Not to mention the over-powered beardy cheese.... and on another note its slightly historically inaccurate. The Spartans didn't use terribly effective versions of the phalanx. The Macedons during the reign of Alexander the Great and the Swiss during the late Middle Ages used a much more effective version of phalanx. However, one on one, a Spartan could hand either of the above their *** in seconds... plus Spartans rock. Not only cuz they can beat the crap out of just about anything, but also cuz they're fairly deft hands at theft as well (in ancient Spartan madatory warrior academies, they didn't feed the students. If you wanted food, you had to find it or steal it). But back to the point. A fighter with the right feats and allies would be a much better PC class for this kinda thing.
 

Child of Hypnos said:
spartans didnt use tower shields, they used large bronze ones - closest in dnd would be a heavy wooden shield. the spartan shield could not possibly be used as total cover.

right. large shields, obviously I didn't look at enough pictures. Well that means that they can actually hit things, it looked like their best combat tactic with towershields was to overun, and then stab the prone foe. The battle accounts clearly covered 3-5 ranks pressing shields into each others backs to add more power to the charge (Aid another - to help overrun) then slaughtering the other side when the opposing line was broken by the push.
 

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