Spartans on a rampage! a new character class

[tanis]

Here is a great character class based off Spartan warriors!
The Spartan Phalanx Soldier (in attachment)

 

[Angel Tarragon]

I think it would be best to rethink it as a PrC. This class is way too powerful.

 

[tanis]

Sadly myself I must say the same but 1 I will probebly revise it then republish it and 2 in the meantime, take advantage of stupid DMs!

 

[comrade raoul]

Not only broken (never make a class with nonstandard attack bonuses and saves), but also pointless, because you can represent a phalanx soldier perfectly well as a fighter who chooses feats appropriate for his style of combat. Given the importance of bonus feats in the class's progression, this shouldn't be surprising.

 

[Lopke_Quasath]

WAY too overpowered. The BAB jump alone is enough to disregard this class, let alone the d12 per level with all the bonus feats.

Even as a PrC it would have to be toned down a boatload (that means a lot )
Besides, as comrade raoul pointed out any fighter could go the route of the phalanx fighter.
This would be ok for an NPC organization, but seriously how many parties would have 2 fighters specializing in phalanx fighting, let alone 3 or more.

Sorry for the crackdown, but luckily you admit you know it's broken

Cheers

 

[Evilhalfling]

I have been trying to replicate the spartans - with just the fighter. What gave me the most trouble was the 8' spear and tower shield fighting style. The book I was reading mentioned the second rank fought over the top of the first (ie reach weapon needed)

Feats for a Spartan Peer:
Tower shield, Phalanx fighting, Monkey Grip (long spear in one hand)
optional: Improved overrun(+PA), WF long spear, WS Long Spear, WF short sword, improved unarmed combat, endurance, iron will, improved toughness.

This could be done by a 1st level human figher, although I would place Peers as at least 3rd level fighters.

(Gates of Fire) specifically said that the peers did not fight as solitary heroes, but as a massed unit of men. (Although they did have a few heroes)
Giving them improved BAB (a bad idea in general) is unjustified. Just add more levels.
everything you want: feats, BAB, Hp is just the result of more levels.

 

[Nyaricus]

. . . in the meantime, take advantage of stupid DMs!

Ummm, i doubt any DM would be stupid enough to let this in his game. It is horribly unbalanced in many different ways > now, if in your campaign world you use different BAB and save progressions, then okay, i can see where you are coming from. But why should this guy get more feats than a standard fighter? I gave this class a 3 because i counted how many broken things there were from a quick veiw. 3 broken saves, 2 more attacks and 2 more feats/abilities than a fighter > 10 - 7 gets you your petty little three. I hope youare staisfied.

If you think illiteracy will keep these guys from being picked often, then your DM you play with must be a spartan (since, as you so cleverly stated, he or she is a big dumbass).


P.S. thanks EvilHalfling for the info

 

[Child of Hypnos]

Feats for a Spartan Peer:
Tower shield, Phalanx fighting, Monkey Grip (long spear in one hand)
optional: Improved overrun(+PA), WF long spear, WS Long Spear, WF short sword, improved unarmed combat, endurance, iron will, improved toughness.

spartans didnt use tower shields, they used large bronze ones - closest in dnd would be a heavy wooden shield. the spartan shield could not possibly be used as total cover.

DM you play with must be a spartan (since, as you so cleverly stated, he or she is a big dumbass).

what makes you think that spartans were dumb?

 

[gamecat]

So. Broken. It. Hurts.

Count me in on the idea of using a fighter with proper feat selection.

 

[Nyaricus]

what makes you think that spartans were dumb?

i was commenting on the fact that illiteracy is given to this class for better BAB than a fighter, another feat/ability, and broken saves. Basically, illiteracy was the only thing meant to refer to spartans as dumb-bums. They were only one of the best fighting forces on this planet, after all.