Special Conversion Thread: Angels (and possibly other heavenly creatures)

[demiurge1138]

Prayer doesn't have any die rolls to empower, unfortunately. I like Stand Still, though.

We could Empower (spiritual weapon). And change it from "hammer" to "weapon" in the SLA writeup.

 

[freyar]

Oops, I was thinking of the wrong thing when I said prayer. Spiritual weapon works, though.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Organization: Solitary, pair, or host (x archangels plus x-x lesser angels)

Challenge Rating: 12 still work?

Advancement: 12-22 HD (Large); 23-50 HD (Huge) [we discussed a wide range of advancement; this puts their best above the mightiest planetars, but not solars]

An archangel is 10 feet tall and weighs about x pounds.

 

[freyar]

These actually seem about as good as CR 14 astral devas, though I admit I'm fudging when looking at SLAs.

Host is maybe 3 archangels and 12-100 lesser angels?

700 lb? They're actually bigger than solars, if you believe it!

 

[demiurge1138]

How about a compromise of CR 13?

 

[Shade]

Updated.

For the Advanced Archangels section, should we note that caster level advances equal to Hit Dice (max 20th)? How about damage reduction improving to 15/epic and evil and regeneration improving to 15 at 23 HD? Spell resistance retaining ratio of CR+9?

Do we want to grant additional spell-like abilities at the higher range as well?

 

[demiurge1138]

We could pull some of their 1/day into higher usage.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

How does that look?

 

[freyar]

Looks fine!

 

[demiurge1138]

Looks good.