[Spell Compendium] Ebon Eyes

Greetings.

Starbuck II, I tend to isagree. Your explanation sounds reasonable on first sight. But that would mean, too, that Ebon Eyes would be much more powerfull then the spell Darkvission. Directly compared:

- Ebon Eyes is a spell level 1 and Darkvision a spell level 2 spell;
- Ebon Eyes would neglect the effects on darkness (natural and magical) while Darkvision only bypasses natural darkness;
- the way you explain the spell Ebon Eyes it sounds as if Ebon Eyes would simply remove all negative effects due to darkness ...

This feels wrong; this cannot be. A first level spell being by far more effective then a second level spell ...

Correct me, when I got your words wrong.

Greetings
ClemLOR

Wait, did I ever say Ebon eyes removed all natural darkness penalties?

It does remove the penalties of miss chance from shadowy illumination due to natural and magical darkness (otherise known as 1/2 darkness also caused by spell Darkness).
Candles release 1/2 darkness (that is my term for Shadow illumination) too (they gie light up to X feet and then shadow lillumination after X feet in area)

But this line: "total darkness" shows it doesn't stop full darkness.

You can always see in 1/2 darkness. Only full darkness blocks vision. Both cause penalties due to miss chance though.
Combined it stops all darkness (natural and magical).
 

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Wait, did I ever say Ebon eyes removed all natural darkness penalties?

It does remove the penalties of miss chance from shadowy illumination due to natural and magical darkness (otherise known as 1/2 darkness also caused by spell Darkness).
Candles release 1/2 darkness (that is my term for Shadow illumination) too (they gie light up to X feet and then shadow lillumination after X feet in area)

But this line: "total darkness" shows it doesn't stop full darkness.

You can always see in 1/2 darkness. Only full darkness blocks vision. Both cause penalties due to miss chance though.
Combined it stops all darkness (natural and magical).

Ah, yes. OK. Thank you. Now I get your point. :)
 

Sorry to pull this out of it's week-old grave, but I've written up a clarification to the spell that I think honors the original text, as well as balances it with the Darkvision spell. Would you all please let me know if I've stumbled upon a good clarification? Or have I made it sucky?

aboyd's revision said:
The Ebon Eyes spell simply makes the beneficiary see shadowy illumination as if it were brightly lit. This even works with spells that cause low-light conditions, such as Darkness. This does not stack with nor otherwise extend/double normal low-light vision ranges.

This is different from the "Low-Light Vision" spell (and natural low-light vision itself) because that type of vision does not upgrade any existing lighting -- it merely increases the distance to see well. So someone with low-light vision in an area of shadowy illumination does not see it as brightly lit; they see it as shadowy. It is only when a bright light source (such as a torch) is introduced that low-light vision kicks in, increasing the distance they can see well. However, with Ebon Eyes, a person in an area of shadowy illumination sees as if it were daylight, which removes the miss chance that low-light conditions normally cause in combat. Since sneak attacks are normally not allowed if there is a miss chance, this opens up the "thug in a dark alley" scenario for rogues.

This has no effect on "total darkness" lighting conditions. It offers no counter to non-darkness problems. If you are blind, Ebon Eyes won't help. If you are in fog, Ebon Eyes won't help.

Technically, this creates an interesting vision effect when gradated lighting applies. For example, a normal human carrying a torch through a dungeon would see bright & clear for about 20 feet, then shadowy illumination for another 20 feet beyond that, and finally pure darkness after that. With Ebon Eyes, that same person would see bright and clear for about 40 feet, then pure darkness. There would be no in-between shadowy illumination.
 

Hello, folks,
hello, aboyd.

Thank you very much. I myself had some tough november weeks behind me. Sry for reacting that late about your posting.

Your clarification helps a lot. I am very glad to understand this spell now. Your explanation confirms what I thought about this spell anyway - that it is this small little extra bonus for assassins and rogues and "dark alleys". :)

Enjoy D&D, cya next time.

Greetings
ClemLOR
 

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