spellcraft check?

[Zaknafein]

using it can a cleric know what a mage spell is by: 15 + spell level? and vice versa can a wiz/sor know what a cleric is casting using same formula?

-in honor zaknafein

 

[hammymchamham]

yes

 

[Dr_Rictus]

Heck, a rogue or a fighter can know what mage and cleric spells are being tossed around by making a Spellcraft check, as long as they've trained it. It's not like it's an exclusive skill.

 

[Norfleet]

Perhaps, but as a cross-class skill, your level in it is horribly crippled. Since even identifying a first level spell is DC16, you won't be able to do this until 12th level, anyway.

 

[Pax]

Um, a first-level Rogue with an Intelligence of 10 COULD identify a spell of up to FIFTH level, witha HALF-rank of Spellcraft (enough to make the roll, but no + to that roll).

It'd just take a good roll on a d20.

A 5th-level Rogue with an Intelligence of, say, 13 (enough to get Expertise and thus Expert Tactician, heh), with 4 ranks of Spellcraft, has a +5. He could (again, with a good roll) identify 9th level spells as they were cast.

 

[bret]

Um, a first-level Rogue with an Intelligence of 10 COULD identify a spell of up to FIFTH level, witha HALF-rank of Spellcraft (enough to make the roll, but no + to that roll).

No, he couldn't. In order to be trained in a skill, you need to have one full rank in the skill. Check the glossary, you will find it in there.

If he puts two skill points (getting 1 rank), then he can do it.

 

[Pax]

The glossary is irrelevant. It's a quickie reference to refresh one's memory, nothing more (and IMO, far less; it's really a waste of pages!). NEVER rely on the glossary as a rules source.

The rules specifically define an someone as untrained in a skill, as someone with 0 ranks of that skill. 0.5 is greater than none. Therefor, someone with 0.5 ranks in a skill, is not untrained.

 

[hammymchamham]

The glossary is irrelevant. It's a quickie reference to refresh one's memory, nothing more (and IMO, far less; it's really a waste of pages!). NEVER rely on the glossary as a rules source.

The rules specifically define an someone as untrained in a skill, as someone with 0 ranks of that skill. 0.5 is greater than none. Therefor, someone with 0.5 ranks in a skill, is not untrained.

always round down. .5 ranks is still the same as 0.... When you make a check, you don't say I got a 18.5 on my spot check!

 

[Scupper]

always round down. .5 ranks is still the same as 0

ZING!

Survey says: Glossary!

 

[Quidam]

always round down. .5 ranks is still the same as 0.... When you make a check, you don't say I got a 18.5 on my spot check!

But do you round down before or after the roll?