Spellguard Ring interpretation

[Cheiromancer]

Also reasonable would be to look at the spell required to create the Spellguard Rings, Otiluke's Suppressing Field.

I don't see how Otiluke's Suppressing Field helps answer *any* of the questions that Hypersmurf posted.

 

[javcs]

I don't see how Otiluke's Suppressing Field helps answer *any* of the questions that Hypersmurf posted.

As it's the spell required to create the item, one could presume that there would be similarities in how they work.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Also reasonable would be to look at the spell required to create the Spellguard Rings, Otiluke's Suppressing Field.

I don't have the OSF text handy... but is there anything that would prevent an Orb of Fire cast outside the field striking a creature inside the field? A Wall of Iron cast outside falling on a creature inside?

-Hyp.

 

[javcs]

I'll assume that the appropriate school/subtype (say the conjuration school) has been selected for spells. OSF works on one school or subtype, chosen at time of casting.

Orb of Fire yes, you'd be trying to cast the spell into the area (I think).

Wall of Iron, I'm not sure, if the Wall were laid down outside the field, then pushed over into the field, I think it would just be treated normally, however, if the Wall were laid down inside the field then, yes, you'd be trying to cast the spell into the area.


EDIT: Bizarre, it seems like it was supposed to be like a reduced power Antimagic Field, but not.

 

[James McMurray]

The spell forces caster level checks to use a specified school of magic within the area. There's nothing that would stop something created by magic but no longer magical from entering the field.

 

[javcs]

The spell forces caster level checks to use a specified school of magic within the area. There's nothing that would stop something created by magic but no longer magical from entering the field.

Not quite.

Anyone attempting to cast such a spell in (or into) the area ...

 

[Hypersmurf]

Orb of Fire yes, you'd be trying to cast the spell into the area (I think).

The point of origin of the spell is your hand. It travels into the area after the spell has been cast.

Casting a spell into an area would be when the target or point of origin of the area or effect is within that area. With Orb of Fire, the spell has no target or area, and the point of origin of the effect is not within the area; you are therefore not casting the spell into the area.

-Hyp.

 

[Gerion of Mercadia]

Casting a spell into an area would be when the target or point of origin of the area or effect is within that area. With Orb of Fire, the spell has no target or area, and the point of origin of the effect is not within the area; you are therefore not casting the spell into the area.

It's also why the orb spells don't check SR.

If the OP could cut/paste the exact rules text of the item, It might help those of us who don't have that particular book.

 

[Cheiromancer]

I think this is the important stuff (both fluff and crunch):

Draconic writing around the interior of both rings translates roughly as "Let no friend of mine ever feel the sting of my magic."

...When the rings are activated, the wearer of the bronze ring becomes immune to any spell cast by the wearer of the gold ring, as long as that spell is cast within one round.

The rings can be useful for pulling off certain tactical maneuvers, such as letting the spellcaster lob a fireball into the midst of a horde of orcs, even though his paladin companion stands right in the center of them.

It refers to Otiluke's Suppressing Field in the item prerequisites. That spell requires you to name a school of magic or a subtype of spell (fire, evil, etc); anyone trying to cast that type of spell must succeed in a caster level check to cast a spell in (or into) the area. It's not very close to the effect of the ring.

 

[James McMurray]

Like many items, the prereq is just a prereq. It doesn't define the way the item works any more than a flaming sword deals divine damage when crafted using flame strike.