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[Douane]

I favor equal levels, but I have Stalker and Rock n' Roll, and I think Hawk, Duke and Falcon are the only guys who outrank Stalker, so I'd at least get a higher level guy if you go that route.

Well, technically there are some more Joes who outrank Stalker:
(Doing this by memory and without ever seeing the cartoon so some are bound to be missing. )

Several of the pilots (including Ace (?) and Ghostrider (Major))
Psyche-Out (Lt. IIRC)
Keel-Haul (Admiral)
Payload (Colonel)
Torpedo, Wild Bill and Flint (all Warrant Officers)


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[garyh]

Well, technically there are some more Joes who outrank Stalker:
(Doing this by memory and without ever seeing the cartoon so some are bound to be missing. )

Several of the pilots (including Ace (?) and Ghostrider (Major))
Psyche-Out (Lt. IIRC)
Keel-Haul (Admiral)
Payload (Colonel)
Torpedo, Wild Bill and Flint (all Warrant Officers)


Folkert

Okay, okay, you win!

I was thinking in terms of more regular guys in the comics. And I meant Flint, not Falcon (darn higher-ups with the same letter name!), though since Falcon is a Lt. he'd also outrank most.

 

[Douane]

Okay, okay, you win!

I was thinking in terms of more regular guys in the comics. And I meant Flint, not Falcon (darn higher-ups with the same letter name!), though since Falcon is a Lt. he'd also outrank most.

Wasn't meant that way! (But I think you already know that. )


Still your point stands, though. If there really have been over 135 Joes in all years, there are not many who could order Stalker around. (Probably the bouns for being a "Joe of the first hour".) Also many of the ones I named a kinda specialists, ie. Pilots, Psychiatrist, "Space Joe" and Commander of the U.S.S. Flagg. In addition I can't really imagine Flint or Torpedo ordering Duke (and Stalker) around.


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[Douane]

Just so that everyone sees what we're talking about, a list of ranks, pulled from the filecards (Years in brackets indicate the first occurence of a rank (or first appearance of the Joe).):

Torpedo:
WO-4 ('83)
WO-5 ('97)
WO-4 ('98)

Salvo:
E-7 ('90)

Rock'n Roll:
E-5 ('82)
E-6 ('89)
E-7 ('97)

Stalker:
E-5 ('82)
E-7 ('89)
E-8 ('97)
E-7 ('02)

Beach Head:
E-6 ('86)
E-7 ('02)

Dusty:
E-4 ('84)
E-5 ('91)
E-4 ('00)

Tripwire:
E-4 ('83)

Backblast:
E-5 ('89)

Lowlight:
E-6 ('86)

Recoil:
E-5 ('89)

Spirit:
E-4 ('84)
E-5 ('89)
E-6 (‘92)



Hmmm. looks like Stalker, Torpedo and Dusty managed to get demoted.

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[Brother Shatterstone]

Okay if I don't hear protest soon we will do equal levels it is after all less work for me

I favor equal levels, but I have Stalker and Rock n' Roll, and I think Hawk, Duke and Falcon are the only guys who outrank Stalker, so I'd at least get a higher level guy if you go that route.

Ahh do you want the honest truth on this...? The list that outranks you is long but distinguished.


Rock and Roll is a "lowly” E7.
Stalker is slightly better off at E9 but still needs to fallow the orders of officers...

The chain of command as far as I can tell.
Note: Officer always out ranks enlisted though personal authority can change that. In order highest to lowest: Officer; Warrant Officer, Enlisted

Officers
Hawk (O9*)
Keel Haul (O9)
Payload (O6)
Ace (O6*)

Warrant Officers
W05 Flint *, Torpedo x,
W04 Wild Bill

Enlisted
E9: Sci-Fi*, Beachhead*, Gung Ho*, Stalker * probably more
E8: Scarlett*, Shipwreck*, Snake Eyes*,
E7: Rock N Roll *, Salvo, Lady Jaye*, Sprit
E6 and below their is just to many to list

* This is from the Battle Files sourcebook
x Rank no longer exisist in the US Navy and his rank has recanted back to W04

Also note that when we start giving people their ranks I'm going with the highest they have ever had.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

well it looks like if I had waited 5 minutes I wouldn't had to type anything.

 

[Douane]

I've no problems with unequal levels, especially if there's only a span of two.



Brother S.,

the ranks from the Battlefiles are for the reinstated Joes, right? That's probably why they are so high up, as they're now more in command role.


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[Brother Shatterstone]

Douane, all major cobra players are indeed evil... We play from their who know where it when end up. (But they will stay NPC and their loyalties are at the digression of the DMs/GMs.)

Roy, welcome aboard, do you want duke or are you going to surprise me? Secondary?

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

the ranks from the Battlefiles are for the reinstated Joes, right? That's probably why they are so high up, as they're now more in command role.

yes and yes. Some of them jumped awhole lot, scarlett jumped 3 and a few jumped like 2.

 

[Douane]

Douane, all major cobra players are indeed evil... We play from their who know where it when end up. (But they will stay NPC and their loyalties are at the digression of the DMs/GMs.)

Good! (Since the same issue finally clears Spirit of the Millville disaster. )


Just asking for continuity reasons (regarding the game setting):

After the "return to Cobra" and Snake-eyes futile rescue attempt, the government doesn't disband GI JOE, but instead get's rid of some of the (too) numerous standard Joes and adds the Greenshirts to combat Cobra?


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