[Spycraft/Modern] BIIIIG guns

[Kannik]

Greets all... this is a question for all you large-calibre afficionados out there. }

If you are taking a single shot with your large-calibre weapon, be it a pistol or rifle (though I'd imagine the rifle would be far less effected if held properly), would you say that the recoil affects your accuracy on that one shot, both in isolation and vis-a-vis taking a shot with a lighter calibre? Say, firing a .44 mag vs a good'ol 9mm, or even a .357 mag vs 9mm. And on the other end, say a 7.62mm vs 5.56mm.

Again, this is with a single shot, or the first shot in a string of shots. As you can probably guess, I'm wondering if there should be some form of modifier for large-calibre weapons for that first shot, or if the recoil will hurt your aim (and perhaps you } on secondary shots, but that first one is done with by the time your arms have been impaled against your body }

Thanks a tonne,

Kannik

 

[Furn_Darkside]

I have not studied them, but the Spycraft RPG Sourcebook: Modern Arms Guide has rules on recoil.

FD

 

[Zenon]

In reality -

The recoil mechanism of the gun has a lot to do with how much it affects your shots.

For example I had a .44 mag Desert Eagle. When fired, because of the slide action, recoil tended to shove your hand straight back. On the other hand, my .44 mag single action revolver handles recoil totally different, more muzzle lift.

Same with shotguns - My SPAS-12, when locked in semi-automatic hardly seems to generate any recoil (good, because the fold-out stock is metal). But, switch it over to pump-action, and that same metal stock hammers your shoulder.

For the game -

I usually tend to go with whatever rules they've designed in instead of trying for too much "realism".

 

[Kannik]

In reality - - The recoil mechanism of the gun has a lot to do with how much it affects your shots.

So... with either of those .44s, would you say despite the straight-back or muzzle-lift charateristics of each, you could fire one, single shot and you'd be as accurate as firing a lighter round? (ie recoil not a factor on first shot?)

Kannik

 

[Steve Conan Trustrum]

So... with either of those .44s, would you say despite the straight-back or muzzle-lift charateristics of each, you could fire one, single shot and you'd be as accurate as firing a lighter round? (ie recoil not a factor on first shot?)

Kannik

No, recoil wouldn't be a significant factor on your first shot.

 

[Gaius]

The anticipation of recoil, however, can be a factor on your first shot.

Took me forever to overcome that psychological stumbling block.

Gaius

 

[Kannik]

Excellent, thanks a tonne!

Kannik

(hey, waitaminute... where are you firing big guns off in Toronto?? }

 

[Pbartender]

The anticipation of recoil, however, can be a factor on your first shot.

Took me forever to overcome that psychological stumbling block.

That's what Weapon proficiencies, and Non-proficiency penalties are for...

Someone who is proficient with firearms, will know to expect and how to handle such things as recoil, thereby negating the -4 penalty to hit.

 

[Gaius]

I'd accept that answer, Pbartender. Makes sense in a sense of the gaming rules. However, I was proficient with handguns for some time before beating that anticipation. And of course, I knew since after the first time I shot how much recoil to expect and knew how to handle it. I just didn't.

But yeah, weapon proficiencies are nice for dealing with that kind of thing.

Gaius

 

[Steve Conan Trustrum]

I'd accept that answer, Pbartender. Makes sense in a sense of the gaming rules. However, I was proficient with handguns for some time before beating that anticipation. And of course, I knew since after the first time I shot how much recoil to expect and knew how to handle it. I just didn't.

But yeah, weapon proficiencies are nice for dealing with that kind of thing.

Gaius

Yeah, but then you can go the opposite way as well. The first time I ever fired a .44 I knew that it would try to kick my teeth in yet I cut just wide of level center at 20 yrds on my first shot ever with that size of gun. You can't really make up a rule for this unless you start trying to factor in mental stats on top of DEX, which just makes the whole thing needlessly complex.